Message from @DarKinGate

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2019-02-07 16:54:14 UTC  

Or any financial exchange, even for shit like law

2019-02-07 16:54:20 UTC  

People just want it to regulate existing modes of transaction

2019-02-07 16:54:49 UTC  

AskTheRisk i dont know how about your country but in my country some company avoid % you have to pay government by directly selling product to the costumer without company involvement

2019-02-07 16:55:13 UTC  

it doest take cuts if you directly sell to another person but when you start business than government comes in play

2019-02-07 16:55:19 UTC  

Isn't that what the black market ends up being, ultimately?

2019-02-07 16:55:35 UTC  

Not all black markets are bad but they get ugly fast

2019-02-07 16:55:54 UTC  

They get ugly fast because they end up in war with the government

2019-02-07 16:56:26 UTC  

Also because they're a good method of offloading goods gained via non monopolized coercion

2019-02-07 16:56:43 UTC  

pazuzu as you put it, the person who produces enough to hire people to voluntarily produce for them isn't leeching off anyone or taking advantage. thats true, and his children will inherit that system and wealth that he had of hiring people to work for him. but he might exapand his business into something more than agroculture, something like civil protection, metal industrys, and then perhaps an industry that serves both such as weapon manufacturing. and now once he is hiring people to create food, extract metals, create tools, and protect everyone doing the following he could hire and overproduction of people who protect everyone who has all the tools of protection from the tool creators to make war on other people doing the same thing as him in a form of forced consolidation of wealth

2019-02-07 16:57:10 UTC  

its not black market tho

2019-02-07 16:57:30 UTC  

its like, i want something, you buy something but i have not official company

2019-02-07 16:57:50 UTC  

technicly in human history this occured before metal production, it was stone to begin with

2019-02-07 16:58:04 UTC  

Essentially as the markets expands more and more, more regulation will be neccesary

2019-02-07 16:58:17 UTC  

and honestly people were killing eachother for production long before agroculture

2019-02-07 16:58:18 UTC  

A good example is stopping the deplatforming of people on the internet

2019-02-07 16:58:19 UTC  

Why is that necessarily the case?

2019-02-07 16:58:30 UTC  
2019-02-07 16:58:36 UTC  

You can't yeet people off the internet, just normie sites

2019-02-07 16:58:51 UTC  

Non normie sites are quarantine sites

2019-02-07 16:58:56 UTC  

But thats a whole another debate

2019-02-07 16:59:43 UTC  

basically, monopoly is bad and it needs to be regulated, and there is a laws to regulate

2019-02-07 17:00:09 UTC  

for most of human existence humans really only saw other humans as dangerous animals that were less dangerous than most other animals when you took them by surprise. if you were part of the ingroup you were human, otherwise you got the same treatment as the wolf did.

2019-02-07 17:01:12 UTC  

well, even now there is low number of people a human can look as a human tho

2019-02-07 17:01:27 UTC  

like you will feel tragedy when you hear that one of your friends die

2019-02-07 17:01:41 UTC  

but you dont give a sht when you hear 25k people died somewhere else

2019-02-07 17:02:00 UTC  

actually were quite soft, and theres an arguement to make that western humans are actually the most tolerent humans on earth when it comes to outgroups

2019-02-07 17:02:17 UTC  

yes tbh i'm in Georgia

2019-02-07 17:02:25 UTC  

Well ima go back to work. This was good stuff.

2019-02-07 17:02:26 UTC  

its middle of Europe and Asia

2019-02-07 17:02:41 UTC  

and here Gays and Trans people are hated

2019-02-07 17:02:47 UTC  

we had some mass murder of trans

2019-02-07 17:02:58 UTC  

and there they complain that bathrooms arent there

2019-02-07 17:03:08 UTC  

asia is not very tolerent of outgroups

2019-02-07 17:03:10 UTC  

I wanted to see where politics and the market meet. I think i got a better image

2019-02-07 17:03:28 UTC  

yeah man, even blacks and other races

2019-02-07 17:03:39 UTC  

tbh people in US are very lucky

2019-02-07 17:04:12 UTC  

also same goes with african countrys and muslim countries

2019-02-07 17:04:22 UTC  

i'm telling you from my experience so you can believe or no

2019-02-07 17:04:31 UTC  

Black country hates white people

2019-02-07 17:04:39 UTC  

Muslims hate LGBT

2019-02-07 17:04:41 UTC  

but asian countries tend to veiw outgroups purely skin deep. who you are doesent matter, what you are is what matters, except middle east where its the exact opposite