yes they do
Criminal system based on your ideas would be shit
You don't even believe in human value
wtf
lol
evil
>applying market value to life
the value of a human is their mind then their organs
Well yeah ofc lol
Without a mind what can you do
they must prove their value to society
why
they are nothing outside of that
even without conciousness and a mind i think humans are valuable
Yeah societal value matters too
This just sounds like daddy issues
with consciousness and a mind they are valuable
"prove their value to society" but you want to kill offenders, how are they supposed to prove anything?
without consciousness they are valuable too
Why does the state decide my value
as long as theyre alive
he prob believes they already disproved themselves as valuable
murderers have already proved they have no value
yep
murderers sure
can agree on that to an extent
Our system right now is based on the idea that if you serve your time in prison you have payed your debts to society
they have value as a human but they deserve death
You don't like that idea
What secret knowledge dose having a state role that makes you unbiased
regular criminals must follow the road to redemption post-flogging
what crimes are regular
your system right now is not ideal
super high reoffending rate
RIP to people who got the death penalty for crimes they didnt commit
@Pelth give a quallification or your argument is gay
flogging is harsh and too much for non-violent crimes
Lol as if flogging will make people like the system they are being physically punished under.
flogging isn't even in that harsh
60-70% reoffending within 5 years. and after 5 years they stop tracking them
people are too sensitive
