Message from @cmdline

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2018-01-21 15:43:59 UTC  

Those kinds of people shouldn’t be teachers.

2018-01-21 15:45:19 UTC  

I think she's a pretty fair teacher on her topics. She's not pro-antifa or anything and she covers he topics fairly well. She's far from apolitical but i don't think there is anything wrong with that. College is about encountering people who disagree with you

2018-01-21 15:45:35 UTC  

(I don't mean to sound defensive of her or offended, I'm not)

2018-01-21 15:46:55 UTC  

I don’t know your teacher so I’ll take your word for it but I’m really wary of anyone who takes the far left seriously.

2018-01-21 15:47:47 UTC  

Are you wary of anyone who takes the far-right seriously?

Don't you think its important to be presented with a diversity of opinions, some of them absurd but seriously defended when in college?

2018-01-21 15:48:51 UTC  

I’m wary of both. I don’t think you should shut down extreme views but also be careful to not cross the line of indoctrination.

2018-01-21 15:49:23 UTC  

extreme views on either side have issues..

2018-01-21 15:51:20 UTC  

Idk, there are some 'extreme' views that I like. (I'm partial to minarchism).

2018-01-21 15:51:40 UTC  

extremeism is generally bad, "only sith deal in absolutes"

2018-01-21 15:51:42 UTC  

I think there are plenty of far-right and left views that are worth being exposed to and engaging with.

2018-01-21 15:55:26 UTC  

extreme views are generally centrist views, just to the extreme...

2018-01-21 15:55:41 UTC  

@CreativeRealms i take the far left seriously

2018-01-21 15:57:26 UTC  

our federal government literally shut down and far left progressives are taking over major institutions all over the world at an alarming rate

2018-01-21 15:57:45 UTC  

so like

2018-01-21 15:57:56 UTC  

there are clearly risks

2018-01-21 15:58:14 UTC  

I take them seriously in that way yes. As in they are a serious danger.

2018-01-21 15:59:26 UTC  

i'm not a reactionary in the sense that join a group simply to oppose another party's views

2018-01-21 15:59:44 UTC  

because often it's mis-applied like universitites and their excessive nitpicking of themself despite not having the problems they describe like racism against minorities and rape

2018-01-21 16:04:21 UTC  

Sexual violence on campus is definitely a real problem.

2018-01-21 16:04:34 UTC  

compared to what

2018-01-21 16:04:46 UTC  

Compared to sexual violence off campus

2018-01-21 16:04:55 UTC  

citation?

2018-01-21 16:05:20 UTC  

Err this is the awkward part, I actually useds to generate the statistics at my campus.

2018-01-21 16:05:32 UTC  

everything i've seen shows that physical violence is lower on campus along with pretty much every crime

2018-01-21 16:05:55 UTC  

But i can't present them or discuss them intimately because of legal stuff

2018-01-21 16:06:01 UTC  

I can't speak to that.

2018-01-21 16:07:07 UTC  

All i can say with relative certainty, is that on my campus (and i've heard this is normal) the number of reported sexual incidents on surveys is much higher than normal. it depends on a lot of things of course, how do you define sexual violence/rape, what counts as on campus and so on

2018-01-21 16:07:40 UTC  

But what is unequivocally clear is that college-aged girls who actually attend university are very much at risk of victimization

2018-01-21 16:07:59 UTC  

That said, the 1 in 5 statistic is laughably hyperbolic

2018-01-21 16:08:38 UTC  

well to make a proper comparison you have to look at the methods you apply on campus to the surrounding city and break it down to the type of incident

2018-01-21 16:09:07 UTC  

for example many include drunk sex

2018-01-21 16:10:22 UTC  

I've never seen a study that included sex while intoxicated

2018-01-21 16:10:36 UTC  

And i've read a number of them

2018-01-21 16:10:37 UTC  

in detroit, the crime rate of the Wayne State university area is a LOT lower than the surrounding city

2018-01-21 16:10:49 UTC  

Well that's obvious

2018-01-21 16:10:58 UTC  

But you have to consider how often sexual violence goes unreported

2018-01-21 16:11:10 UTC  

for both sides

2018-01-21 16:11:11 UTC  

And that crime is a much broader category than sexual violence

2018-01-21 16:11:18 UTC  

?

2018-01-21 16:11:22 UTC  

For both sides???

2018-01-21 16:12:15 UTC  

for the university and the surrounding area