It's libertarianism.

Yeah

well a ton of people are libertarians

I think Tim hasn't quite comprehended that right vs left is... still valid to people like us, but to the media he is on the right

I think maybe you haven't.

hm?

@RyeNorth

Or maybe it really doesn't matter anymore whether or you're left or right.

Right vs. Left isn't remotely where the divide is being drawn.

It's across authoritarian and anti-authoritarian lines.

to some extent yes

Down here on the Libertarian side of things, we actually talk to each other

we actually disagree

and we actually coexist

Any classical left is currently on the right for what it's worth, and most right wing views are in deed classical left views

Almost everything the right fights for as a whole are classical left views

I mean, you can say Tim's audience is conservative, sure

But when you consider you're a conservative actually agreeing with a center-lefty

That should kind of change your perspective on what's ACTUALLY happening here.

If nothing else, most of the people I've heard talk in here are libertarian/individualists.

Free speech is an entirely left view, censorship is a right view.. Yet the left censor everyone and the right want free speech

I'm still pretty moderate but I've been pushed to the right in the last year. In terms of the American Democrat-Republican sense.

Democrats and Republicans don't operate on the same political spectrum as their constituents

yeah

It's why there's so much disenfranchisement.

Someone should start the Leave-It-The-Fuck-Alone party.

put I have to participate in that system and I agree with the Republican party more because they stand for more normal American values

but

Kind of like the Rent Is Too Damn High party, but for libertarians

Left/right was stupid in my mind the moment I realised you couldn't be okay with gays as well as guns without having to drop one to go for the other.

👏clap👏between👏words👏party👏

The libertarian party in the US is retarded though lol

Definitely.

did you see their debates

..Do I even want to know.

Closest thing to following the libertarian party I've done is seeing what rand paul's been doing.

yeah, funny though because both political parties are going through ideological changes rn

conservatism is changing

And the two party system was a mistake.

Maybe we'll be lucky and it'll dissolve after this.

i don't know about that