mmhmm...

And a couple of other intermittent devices that went on and off as needed.

so, about 1.25 down, .25 up effectively.

Yeah.

Like I said.

That was basic math.

When I was on "basic" what we actually got was over 8 seconds of ping and a 5mb torrent took 2 weeks to finish.

I only remember this stuff so well because I couldn't even go online in games with friends.

But once again, what you're describing there isn't a net neutrality issue.

And a guy I was really wanting to play with died during the Internet downtime.

So that was fun.

You signed up for a different package.

We didn't get what we paid for.

and even then im not going to take an anecdotal experience when I don't have all the necessary info to just change positions when there is a lot of data on the position im currently on

Then again here's the weird thing.

When we paid for the standard 15:5.

We actually got closer to 27:10.

But when we paid for 5:1, we got 0.1:0.01.

First off, comcast is comcastic. But second off, You switched to a lower package. ISPs were doing that even under Net Neutrality.

What you're describing isn't something that Net Neutrality is designed to combat.

there's something sad to me about someone being extremely familiar with their internet speeds.

Also, pretty sure Comcastic is found in the Thesaurus under 'Retarded'

The point really is trust in the ISPs. Net neutrality is, again, a really messy prospect. But the alternative in letting the big corporation ISPs doing whatever the hell they want is far, far uglier in my mind.

Then again this all falls back to "the whole system needs to be completely flipped over."

that's the winning move.

Remove virtual monopoly.

but they can't do whatever they want

they are still *regulated*

things were going fine without NN, you're still buying into the John Oliver tier talking points

Dude, I couldn't make it 30 seconds into that.

And that was the 20..14? edition of that video.

And it's less john oliver and more of people like level1techs.

Who are.. surprisingly libertarians.

Hey WHAT

Any chance you'd let us peruse your google doc?

^

sure

ill just post the links i have in it

https://techpolicycorner.org/net-neutrality-v-title-ii-explained-3ad8d576a50a?gi=d700429c7755
http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~faulhabe/Econ_Net_Neut_Review.pdf
https://poseidon01.ssrn.com/delivery.php?ID=705009006021024104001073069002067110033043005000058070028025100125004021119011090024019049032015010126055087025125015120024108055071011065053094003124022006113007000012008104069025101119113015111074125020067005025006027025029104027029072027115064099&EXT=pdf
https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/168551/1/Yeh-Cheng.pdf

My general point is that the internet thrived without net neutrality rules through the 90s, the naughts, and up until 2014.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w22040.pdf
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/M.D.Tenn_._null_null_0.pdf