Message from @luke5135

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2020-02-04 21:13:13 UTC  

also the military is heavily funded

2020-02-04 21:13:42 UTC  

military is volunteer and oath keepers

2020-02-04 21:13:57 UTC  

they can ignore orders that go over the constitution

2020-02-04 21:14:20 UTC  

they couldn’t without severe consequences

2020-02-04 21:14:25 UTC  

they take an oath

2020-02-04 21:14:47 UTC  

wait i misread

2020-02-04 21:15:07 UTC  

“they can ignore orders that go over the constitution”

2020-02-04 21:15:12 UTC  

?

2020-02-04 21:15:29 UTC  

what does go over the constitution mean

2020-02-04 21:15:45 UTC  

when you join you make and oath to follow the constitution

2020-02-04 21:16:05 UTC  

so how would you go over the constitution

2020-02-04 21:16:22 UTC  

the constitution of when they currently join

2020-02-04 21:16:29 UTC  

not including changes

2020-02-04 21:17:13 UTC  

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed

2020-02-04 21:17:24 UTC  

no where does it say not including changes

2020-02-04 21:17:43 UTC  

the constitution is the constitution

2020-02-04 21:18:05 UTC  

if they pledged to defend it, that definitely includes any amendments made

2020-02-04 21:18:36 UTC  

they make the oath of what is currently on the constitution

2020-02-04 21:18:58 UTC  

and if the constitution changes does that mean it’s no longer the constitution

2020-02-04 21:19:38 UTC  

if you don’t want to fight in the military, you’d need to quit. you can’t just refuse to follow orders

2020-02-04 21:20:01 UTC  

it means they keep the oath of it when they took it

2020-02-04 21:20:13 UTC  

the oath never changed

2020-02-04 21:20:20 UTC  

it says to defend the constitution

2020-02-04 21:20:38 UTC  

not the current constitution

2020-02-04 21:21:47 UTC  

the oath would be nullified if a major change happened

2020-02-04 21:23:29 UTC  

and many would refuse to redo the oath dependant on views

2020-02-04 21:23:47 UTC  

not to mention the threat from the popular to start a war if seckdn amendment is changed

2020-02-04 21:25:01 UTC  

the oath doesn’t expire unless your service ends

2020-02-04 21:25:03 UTC  

do you live in the US?

2020-02-04 21:25:06 UTC  

yes

2020-02-04 21:25:17 UTC  

ha surprising you sound like a fkin commie

2020-02-04 21:25:41 UTC  

i am not a communist but communists can live in the us

2020-02-04 21:26:00 UTC  

all I'm saying is chance of the second amendment changing is lower than the chance of a civil war

2020-02-04 21:26:14 UTC  

sure

2020-02-04 21:26:23 UTC  

so basically null

2020-02-04 21:26:44 UTC  

while many people in the US are actually expecting a civil war

2020-02-04 21:26:44 UTC  

i doubt it will be nullified

2020-02-04 21:26:50 UTC  

it won't

2020-02-04 21:27:00 UTC  

nullifying the second amendment won’t solve any of our problems

2020-02-04 21:27:06 UTC  

banning things never do

2020-02-04 21:27:08 UTC  

not in my life time