Wacka, remember the 2011 riots. How many ppl were charged? That went on for days, they had hundreds of thousands of hours of thousands of ppl bruning London to the ground and they only got a fraction of them. They are there to stop you and me from being bad boys.

Murder clearance rate in New York City is 31%.

hundreds were charged

And NY probably has a surveillance system to rival London.

There are cheap devices which are easily acquired which jam transmitted signals like cell and wifi. Many camera's use wireless communication so it is possible to freak them.

yeah, and thousands and thousands of ppl robbed the country for nearly a week.

and thanks to cameras... hundreds of them were charged

After the fact. We're talking about assassination here. The victims will be dead.

some will... some will be deterred

yeah. I'm not saying they are useless. They are there moe as a scare tactic.

if a few cameras saves one innocent life... isnt that worth it?

that's a slippiry slope there wacka.

Stop being naive. I'm talking about the opening stages of a civil war.

People are losing their minds here.

ok... but Im talking about cameras... to prevent some crimes 😛

I think people should be able to have guns... and public spaces should have cameras.. just seems logical to me

I am in agreement with that

although I do think a licence to own a gun should have a theory and practical test... just like a driving licence

Id rather not have <30IQ people running around with them 😛

^^

There is no expectation of privacy in public. In order to carry a gun you have to have a theory and practical test. I think everyone, even those without guns should take gun safety courses. Like first aid and cpr

yeah i found it fun to go shooting when I was young

you get to realise how powerful those 308 rounds are

this is what I used to go shooting with http://www.cybershooters.org/SA80/L98A1.JPG

I limit my kids to small calibers. That way they can learn without the hurt shoulder and ringing ears ;p

except without the scope... just iron sights... like a man 😛

thats a french gun innit?

That is pretty cool.

british

I'll let you off then.

I am a big fan of bullpups. But just to be contrary, I prefer German :>

I remember once when holding up the target they shot right in a nail in the target.. nearly knocked me over

ricochet?

no just went straight into the nail of the target i was holding up

And you were saying just up there that ppl should be tested before they are allowed a gun. I can see why.

I am reading that as you were downrange.

yeah... its like a bunker... you are behind several feet of concrete

this was in the air training core... its not like anyone of the street can use it

Oh. Ok. I was having several visions on how that would be possible, none of them pleasant.

apple on the head style

occasionally you got a really bad shot... and can hear the ricochet of the concrete... I was surprised how it kinda sounded like in the movies 😛