PayPal vs banks

SpaceX vs nasa

Tesla vs car manufacturers

Banks will beat paypal, unbelievable but probably true

basically it'd only true if your name is Elon musk but whatever

Tesla is already dead, they just don't know it

but PayPal forces them to compete

not sure about that I think Tesla is finr

still a demand and making highly praised cars

even though musk is pissing lefties off

Tesla is funded, not funding. The company is living off a pipe dream, which isn't a pipe dream for other companies

Other elec vehicle companies are in the black, tesla keeps in the red. I think Elon is already started to pull out

maybe. but it just shows it's possible

even if it always doesn't work out

There are viable ways already, tesla just isn't one of them. Look at 'zero motorcycles' for example, they have sustainable businesses and even race bikes already, at a competitive price. Tesla is still too over priced for normal people to buy one

When people understand they can convert their 1992 corola to an electric vehicle for us$5k then what does tesla have to offer?

Buy a corvette and convert it cheaper than a pries

that's always been possible

that being said Tesla has helped advance the technology

and expensive to cheaper has always been their business model

Nazi's helped advance science, Tesla helps advance science, Elon Musk is a space Nazi for sure

I personally think mass electric cars are a pipe dream

ooooh are we playing 6th degree nazi separation

Electric cars are no more efficient, atm the power production is worse than just using a petroleum engine, when solar is advanced enough then the production of panels will be in parr as bad

yeah

electrics are 100% efficient

charging them isn't

and range is major issue

Lets use petroleum fuel to make electricity, have a power loss in the transfer, and then claim the car itself is efficient.

yup

stupid

charging via solar or wind or hell even nuclear power would be ideal

One of the first things I learned as an electrician is IR² (otherwise known as power losses or Copper loss). It is unavoidable and the more system the bigger the loss

you can always add more copper though

Second gripe - Lets dig a hole in the ground and make non biodegradable materials to make a car that is mildly better than the old car that is made from biodegradable minerals

but generally the batteries are close to motor

oh I agree

I think more should be done with hydrogen

personally

Battery to motor = low loss
Power to battery = excessive loss

still a power issue