Message from @Lagomaster24

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2018-07-07 03:02:03 UTC  

its one of the potential outcomes of first-past-the-post

2018-07-07 03:02:32 UTC  

other countries circumvent this via party coalitions

2018-07-07 03:03:14 UTC  

We currently have 8 parties in the national parliament, two coalition blocks and one 'out cast' party (12.9%)

2018-07-07 03:03:14 UTC  

kinda like how UKIP and the Greens coalited in EU parliment to stop Art13 and 11(?)

2018-07-07 03:03:29 UTC  

yea

2018-07-07 03:03:41 UTC  

art. 13 and 11 have not yet been voted on in the EU parliament, i think?

2018-07-07 03:04:07 UTC  

I do think though that just having ONE other option in the US would do it some good

2018-07-07 03:04:30 UTC  

They voted to not have secret meetings and negotiate publicly instead

2018-07-07 03:05:09 UTC  

the third would inevitably have to be Moderate to maintain balance

2018-07-07 03:05:39 UTC  

I agreem the US sure does need some other options..
Having some to choose inbetween helps with solving both democratic issues and bi-partisan issues

2018-07-07 03:05:57 UTC  

About article 13 and 11, you're right, it was shut down!

2018-07-07 03:06:02 UTC  

Lucky me 😛

2018-07-07 03:06:20 UTC  

in regards to executive positions the primary process would likely cover 3 parties instead of 2 so it could potentially be longer

2018-07-07 03:06:49 UTC  

the Art 13 and 11 stuff aint over keep calling them Meps

2018-07-07 03:07:19 UTC  

basically instead of two tables at the poll during the primaries youd have 3

2018-07-07 03:07:41 UTC  

the only reason RNC and DNC exist is to narrow down candidates

2018-07-07 03:07:47 UTC  

through the primary

2018-07-07 03:08:03 UTC  

but the people still elect the candidate

2018-07-07 03:08:56 UTC  

then the Super Delegates are SUPPOSED to function similarly to the Electoral College and vote with the constituents iirc

2018-07-07 03:09:49 UTC  

Yeah... The EU is doing alot it shouldn't.
I get the narrowing down principle, it makes sense for a party to do so.
But as you point out, at least one more option would probably do alot of good.
The super delegate part though, very strange!

2018-07-07 03:10:03 UTC  

and if it HAD to be between two parties then we would have to have an additional process after the primary to narrow things further

2018-07-07 03:10:51 UTC  

Super Delegates can be bought and honestly i think that they should be nonpartisan as a result

2018-07-07 03:10:55 UTC  

Man, if it had to be between two parties the corruption potential would be hughe

2018-07-07 03:11:02 UTC  

because they already have party biases

2018-07-07 03:11:20 UTC  

thats the problem we are dealing with

2018-07-07 03:11:35 UTC  

ofc they have. There should be no acctual delegates, only the result of the voting

2018-07-07 03:11:40 UTC  

DNC rigged the presidential primaries to ensure Hilarys win

2018-07-07 03:11:54 UTC  

yea ideally

2018-07-07 03:11:55 UTC  

i heard about that

2018-07-07 03:11:58 UTC  

very sad

2018-07-07 03:12:16 UTC  

id maintain the electoral college in regards to the over pres election though

2018-07-07 03:13:06 UTC  

popular vote aint always the smartest lol nor are electors at times but idk its a insurance thing if anything

2018-07-07 03:13:29 UTC  

like before typically electors just vote with the state

2018-07-07 03:13:39 UTC  

It may very well be an insuranse thing, but also a weak point

2018-07-07 03:13:49 UTC  

I remember hearing about that and the fact that bernie pulled a coward move and played for Hillary really showed me a lot

2018-07-07 03:14:16 UTC  

and since electors change based on population the way you campaign changes

2018-07-07 03:14:37 UTC  

Bernie did essentially cuck himself

2018-07-07 03:14:44 UTC  

Should I start another BLM page? The official one was some Australian guy having a laugh. And I'm an Australian guy that wants a laugh.. I could make them all do the Boiling water challenge and become cannibals or some shit

2018-07-07 03:14:58 UTC  

Very complicated system for someone not as read in to it as me 😛

2018-07-07 03:15:29 UTC  

tbh i dont know as much as i might be implying, especially about the Electoral College

2018-07-07 03:15:46 UTC  

Probably more than me anyhow!