Message from @Lagomaster24

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2018-07-07 02:55:44 UTC  

Elections Commission is typically who you do it through ultimately

2018-07-07 02:56:06 UTC  

registering to the party happens separately

2018-07-07 02:56:37 UTC  

registering to the party allows you to vote in closed primaries and i think caucuses

2018-07-07 02:56:51 UTC  

open primaries do not require membership of a party

2018-07-07 02:57:31 UTC  

iirc i am a registered democrat although im in an open primary state so it doesnt really matter

2018-07-07 02:58:17 UTC  

also allows you to be a DNC or RNC elector i think

2018-07-07 02:58:52 UTC  

tbh kinda registered on a whim when i helped a Dem campaign

2018-07-07 02:58:59 UTC  

we lost

2018-07-07 02:58:59 UTC  

Interesting system...
In Sweden the parties get to chose their own candidates and only party members are allowed to take part in the ranking of candidates to the different government bodies

2018-07-07 02:59:07 UTC  

was super close though

2018-07-07 02:59:26 UTC  

Representative democracy has its perks...

2018-07-07 02:59:30 UTC  

Anyone can run here

2018-07-07 02:59:44 UTC  

Parties are mostly just the pedistool

2018-07-07 03:00:01 UTC  

although the DNC and RNC allow the party to implement some control

2018-07-07 03:00:06 UTC  

yeah anyone can run here too, as independent candidates. Anyone is also free to start new parties

2018-07-07 03:00:23 UTC  

yea we can start parties too

2018-07-07 03:00:40 UTC  

ive got the party registration site bookmarked just in case

2018-07-07 03:01:18 UTC  

the problem with our third parties is that they are often single issue and not broad like the Dems and Repubs

2018-07-07 03:01:29 UTC  

Well the way your system is set up makes it very hard for smaller parties to stand a chance, right?
In Sweden it is enough with 4% of the total votes in order to gain access to the parliament, for anny party

2018-07-07 03:01:48 UTC  

in a sense yes

2018-07-07 03:02:03 UTC  

its one of the potential outcomes of first-past-the-post

2018-07-07 03:02:32 UTC  

other countries circumvent this via party coalitions

2018-07-07 03:03:14 UTC  

We currently have 8 parties in the national parliament, two coalition blocks and one 'out cast' party (12.9%)

2018-07-07 03:03:14 UTC  

kinda like how UKIP and the Greens coalited in EU parliment to stop Art13 and 11(?)

2018-07-07 03:03:29 UTC  

yea

2018-07-07 03:03:41 UTC  

art. 13 and 11 have not yet been voted on in the EU parliament, i think?

2018-07-07 03:04:07 UTC  

I do think though that just having ONE other option in the US would do it some good

2018-07-07 03:04:30 UTC  

They voted to not have secret meetings and negotiate publicly instead

2018-07-07 03:05:09 UTC  

the third would inevitably have to be Moderate to maintain balance

2018-07-07 03:05:39 UTC  

I agreem the US sure does need some other options..
Having some to choose inbetween helps with solving both democratic issues and bi-partisan issues

2018-07-07 03:05:57 UTC  

About article 13 and 11, you're right, it was shut down!

2018-07-07 03:06:02 UTC  

Lucky me 😛

2018-07-07 03:06:20 UTC  

in regards to executive positions the primary process would likely cover 3 parties instead of 2 so it could potentially be longer

2018-07-07 03:06:49 UTC  

the Art 13 and 11 stuff aint over keep calling them Meps

2018-07-07 03:07:19 UTC  

basically instead of two tables at the poll during the primaries youd have 3

2018-07-07 03:07:41 UTC  

the only reason RNC and DNC exist is to narrow down candidates

2018-07-07 03:07:47 UTC  

through the primary

2018-07-07 03:08:03 UTC  

but the people still elect the candidate

2018-07-07 03:08:56 UTC  

then the Super Delegates are SUPPOSED to function similarly to the Electoral College and vote with the constituents iirc

2018-07-07 03:09:49 UTC  

Yeah... The EU is doing alot it shouldn't.
I get the narrowing down principle, it makes sense for a party to do so.
But as you point out, at least one more option would probably do alot of good.
The super delegate part though, very strange!

2018-07-07 03:10:03 UTC  

and if it HAD to be between two parties then we would have to have an additional process after the primary to narrow things further