Message from @pratel

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2018-07-30 22:50:38 UTC  

You need to make enough noise and apply enough pressure to attract the press. Particularly the sympathatic press.

2018-07-30 22:50:51 UTC  

Press sympathetic to conservatives?

2018-07-30 22:50:56 UTC  

On Fox.

2018-07-30 22:51:11 UTC  

And there's some setups that just look bad or are hard to deny.

2018-07-30 22:52:04 UTC  

There's an op-ed I like that proposed the next time a right-wing speaker is shouted down, every libertarian, moderate or conservative student should then mob the next left-leaning speaker and chant "this is what you do to us" until they get removed by the police (and then be polite about leaving)

2018-07-30 22:52:23 UTC  

By making a clear demand and being voiceful it forces the issue and makes the demand clear.

2018-07-30 22:52:39 UTC  

Dude that's not going to play out the way you think.

2018-07-30 22:52:46 UTC  

Either the administration lets them have their speeches in peace or they'll keep being disruptive.

2018-07-30 22:52:50 UTC  

Every conservative student would be arrested and expelled.

2018-07-30 22:52:54 UTC  

No mercy.

2018-07-30 22:53:05 UTC  

That's when you go to court.

2018-07-30 22:53:16 UTC  

And you do it strategically.

2018-07-30 22:53:24 UTC  

You're not doing this in Berkely.

2018-07-30 22:53:44 UTC  

You do it at U Nebraska where the faculty are already on the defensive after that incident with the professor at the TPUSA table.

2018-07-30 22:53:59 UTC  

And the population is already right-leaning.

2018-07-30 22:54:35 UTC  

Hit one or two unis and keep making threats and it'll get attention.

2018-07-30 22:54:48 UTC  

And spread naturally. And as it does you build infrastructure.

2018-07-30 22:54:51 UTC  

Optics are going to be shit. It'll be all white males.

2018-07-30 22:55:20 UTC  

Who cares. Most left leaning protests are majority middle-class white females.

2018-07-30 22:55:42 UTC  

And you don't need to chain yourself to a tree. Just make enough noise to get attention and force the administration's hand.

2018-07-30 22:55:53 UTC  

And keep up pressure.

2018-07-30 22:56:08 UTC  

I mean, just inviting Christina Hoff Summers is usually enough.

2018-07-30 22:57:49 UTC  

Again, the majority of the action should be from the non-left base and external factors. Create funds with designated purposes and keep people informed on how it is working. Then shift to politicians.

You only need a couple visible figures.

2018-07-30 22:58:00 UTC  

And enough attention to maintain focus among the base.

2018-07-30 22:59:48 UTC  

Seems like one obstacle is communicating to moneyed conservatives why they need to fund these efforts instead of investing that money in something that's going to generate a return.

2018-07-30 23:00:13 UTC  

Because a lot of people are just going to read about this and tune out.

2018-07-30 23:00:24 UTC  

Oh yes. That's actually why I like the Kochs. He understands the importance of the culture war and doesn't just play "buy Republican ads" game.

2018-07-30 23:00:26 UTC  

They think it doesn't matter to society at large.

2018-07-30 23:00:43 UTC  

The real challenge is getting the Rightwing grassroots to care.

2018-07-30 23:01:09 UTC  

Think of the last time you found a far left and how many NGOs they had on their car. Every one of those bumper stickers was money directed for a cause.

2018-07-30 23:02:39 UTC  

There is an asymmetry in the left and the right. The Left will fight on any terrain they can find. The Right just thinks that if they whine like sheep and then elect someone like Trump they'll somehow win.

It might work for short stretches in electoral politics but fails in the long run.

2018-07-30 23:03:54 UTC  

There are actually moneyed conservatives interested in this already and they struggle to find footing. The Martin Center of Academic Renewal for example has plenty of money coming in from places.

2018-07-30 23:04:17 UTC  

But a couple million from donors to fund a couple people to complain is like everything--easy to ignore.

2018-07-30 23:04:27 UTC  

Maybe one factor is that the right thinks they can win a civil war.

2018-07-30 23:04:37 UTC  

Which they won't, BTW.

2018-07-30 23:04:49 UTC  

They might have the arms, but thy lack the organization and intelligence.

2018-07-30 23:05:08 UTC  

I'd rather have established structure and Google than a single firearm.

2018-07-30 23:05:22 UTC  

The right has a bad habit of being completely delusional.

2018-07-30 23:05:50 UTC  

I don't think anyone would win a civil war, and yes the right is pretty delusional when it comes to such discussions.

2018-07-30 23:05:54 UTC  

(Aside: this is my criticism of Nikki Haley's recent comment about not 'triggering the libs.' I notice alot of the vocal right wing academics I know would agree with me)

2018-07-30 23:05:56 UTC  

But they use it as a security blanket.