Message from @pratel

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2018-07-30 22:39:19 UTC  

Demand that State U's in red states start reducing the size of their administrations or take massive funding cuts.

2018-07-30 22:39:46 UTC  

Threaten to use that money to build new institutions out of whole cloth and actually do it once or twice the admins refuse to make reforms.

2018-07-30 22:39:55 UTC  

Everyone involved in making these demands would have to be prepared to face character assassination.

2018-07-30 22:40:01 UTC  

Few are.

2018-07-30 22:40:14 UTC  

Which is why I say the right is cowardly and lazy.

2018-07-30 22:40:25 UTC  

Right now, Republicans are souring on academy.

2018-07-30 22:40:34 UTC  

It starts with a populist politician.

2018-07-30 22:40:58 UTC  

And then it shifts to some of the right wing organizations like the McMartin Center for Academic renewal who have already taken hard lines.

2018-07-30 22:41:45 UTC  

There was a professor at DePaul who frankly said he thinks the entire system needs to be destroyed completely.

I don't think he's going to take more of a hit than he already has.

2018-07-30 22:42:14 UTC  

But the right-wing base isn't willing to play hard ball and the politicians don't want to be called "facists"

2018-07-30 22:42:42 UTC  

This is going to sound trite, but maybe Jordan Peterson is the guy to organize this. Assuming one could shrink his head down to normal size once again.

2018-07-30 22:43:02 UTC  

Add to that the reality that bills the Republican lawmakers propose are generally pretty dumb, like mandating 50-50 registration (Indiana) are never going to actually work.

2018-07-30 22:43:15 UTC  

Peterson can't really do that though. It's too dirty for him to get involved.

2018-07-30 22:43:47 UTC  

He might say it's time to do it and add to the story of people cast out of the academies, but when it comes to actually issuing and carrying out threats his value is too dependent on being clean.

2018-07-30 22:44:12 UTC  

You said you needed a populist to get the ball rolling.

2018-07-30 22:44:19 UTC  

Like, he can endorse someone and then say "I don't necessarily agree with everything but this person has the right idea" but he can't be the one issuing demands himself.

2018-07-30 22:44:46 UTC  

@Atkins Yes. And not Trump. Trump is too busy courting controversy to actually do anything useful.

2018-07-30 22:45:59 UTC  

One thing I think would be interesting is seeing if Title IX could be used to split the funding of Women's studies.

You rally together a bunch of radical (probably left leaning) male students who play the social justice game and demand a men's studies department. Then argue Title IX requires all funds and resources allocated to helping women via the Womens studies progam must be matched.

2018-07-30 22:46:14 UTC  

This makes the women's studies program effectively 2x as expensive.

2018-07-30 22:46:25 UTC  

Useful right-wing populists who have ties to academia and a desire to tear the system down are pretty damned scarce.

2018-07-30 22:46:26 UTC  

And creates a natural counterweight to the feminists.

2018-07-30 22:46:47 UTC  

Useful right-wing populists...are pretty damned scarce

FTFY

2018-07-30 22:47:03 UTC  

Really, it needs to be grassroots.

2018-07-30 22:47:17 UTC  

The politicians come after the Unis are screaming for money and see there is energy.

2018-07-30 22:47:18 UTC  

How's it going to be grassroots if the place is 99% lefties

2018-07-30 22:47:27 UTC  

Grassroots among the general populace.

2018-07-30 22:47:39 UTC  

Obviously, Academia won't change on it's own.

2018-07-30 22:48:14 UTC  

Groups like GG need to step up their game.

We need more leaks.
More protests.
More baiting.

2018-07-30 22:48:24 UTC  

And the general population needs to be applying pressure.

2018-07-30 22:48:51 UTC  

The Blue-state U's and rich private institutions are pretty unapproachable. But you could force matters in a number of red states and with poor, dying privates.

2018-07-30 22:48:55 UTC  

Of which there are many.

2018-07-30 22:49:00 UTC  

Conservatives can't really even set foot on some campuses to start protests. Can't even have a speech in a rented hall.

2018-07-30 22:49:15 UTC  

Why do you think lefties chain themselves to trees?

2018-07-30 22:49:31 UTC  

They're shameless mental cases?

2018-07-30 22:49:36 UTC  

It works.

2018-07-30 22:49:50 UTC  

They get their message across. And they set it up so they look like the victims.

2018-07-30 22:49:56 UTC  

I'd just pepper spray them and leave them lol.

2018-07-30 22:49:58 UTC  

The victim and arrest part is the wohle goal.

2018-07-30 22:50:23 UTC  

Come back every few hours and re-apply pepper spray

2018-07-30 22:50:38 UTC  

You need to make enough noise and apply enough pressure to attract the press. Particularly the sympathatic press.

2018-07-30 22:50:51 UTC  

Press sympathetic to conservatives?