Layman here, but how do you go from socialism back to capitalism? Like who gets what to start with? Do you just claim ownership of whatever you can fight for and kill any mofo in your way? And how the fuck do you pay someone to work for you with no money to start with?

Nomatter what someones gonna make a trade commodity

Reminds me, how in Metro, mil grade ammo was their version of gold standard currency

Depends if your talking theoretical or practical

Theoretically a socialist society would have no currency and no privately owned buisneses, but personnel property would still be a thing

As ginga seggusted a theoretically collapsing socialist would likely revert to a barter economy and have to go through the economic evolution all over again

Eventually a universally accepted item would become a defacto currency such as bullets in metro or precious/rare metal coins throughout most of history

It will be something that isnt easy to reproduce

Bottlecaps in Fallout because they are hard to counterfeit

As far as who gets what property that would be way messier and far more complicated

Well, it depends on the level of tech in society

Depending upon how terrible the fall is existing insitutions will adapt and take most of the property

Early tech or low tech it will be something that is nessesary for survival like water and food

Mid tech, some resource that is hard to reproduce, like gold or precious metals

And high tech, something intrinsicly useless.

If the insitutions dont survive then it would be a wild west free for all. Everyone grabbing what they can and the largest group probaly coming out ahead due to their numbers/material pool

Exactly, someone will have to make a common needed product and that will turn into the "currency"

Or just collectively known as bartering

Reminds me of one game I was working on solo. Idea was currency is reduced to batteries and fabrication gel.

SOmething very high tech. No currency or trading, everything was pure socialist.

System collapses, and too much dependency on the system meant many died out.

More than that but explaining the whole thing will take all day

Hope the above statements awnser your questions @Dunk Massive

If you are talking about a more pratical version then money usually exists in a society and the transition is more economic wrestling for resources than violent conflict

Unless your currency happens to go below the value of videogame currency

Or if that country end up in a situation where these two amounts of money are equal to each other

It may be the setting for the next purge movie

ah the almighty bolivar

(i assume)

Venezuela currency?

Yeap

So can I move to Venezuela and basically buy everyone and everything now they admit socialism has failed?

I can buy like 50k of bottlecaps from the local brewery before I go

I can afford about 6k cans of spaghetti, that would be better hey?

Remember that this country has been indoctrinated on anti western anti capitalist propaganda for decades

So you can definetly become the speghetti king for awhile

but eventually people may turn on you

Well it's better to love and lose than to never have loved at all.
The 'spaghetti king', I like the sound of that

Wait, he admits it?

--Discrolled.

Has Maduro really admitted socialism is a failure?