to control language

```“Control language and you control thought; control thought and you control action; control action and you control the world.”```

It is extremely important that we begin to push back on language.

Because this leniency on definition is where we're losing.

We're allowing people who are not liberty-minded to call themselves liberal.

Yes, but you and I may also differ in our political goals. I understand and value the state and a very orderly, traditional and homogenous culture.

Well we're losing it in the same way we're winning it. Nazi will lose all meaning, and as it does the alt right will gain more subs like Tim says.

I would say it's more accurate, with less miscommunication, to strive for fairness or "Equality under the law" than the ever nebulous "equality"

Equality of opportunity, even.

I'm not alt right but the coopting of words at least makes sure the left wont use them again

Equality of outcome is worthless

But you have to preserve the meritocracy.

We're all equal when we die. Feel free to pursue that state without me

Also traditionalism without change is a recipe for disaster

Is that aimed at me, beemann? that seems non-sequitur.

No, general "you" sort of statement

Ah. the rhetorical person that pushes for the state you described. I get it.

Order reduces the capacity for adaptation, when taken beyond moderation

A homogenous and traditionally focused society will inevitably fail in a larger market, whatever that market may be

I don't agree that homogeneity is necessarily a flaw, either.

well, to a point.

i think practical examples are useful here

I think cohesiveness is not a flaw, but I would argue homogeneity absolutely is

Equating homogeneity to cohesiveness would, specifically, be the fallacy at play.

which is the common mistake of the Alt-Right.

What's far more important is cohesiveness in culture.

Is it because it could be seen as more or less an echo chamber culture?

Like the rapid growth of capitalist countries is a product of diversification and specialization. That doesn't equate to the modern understanding of diversity mind

But actual diversity

It'd most likely be due to the idea of specialization.

do real world example, wouldn't japan be homogeneous rather then cohesive, correct?

For the most part, yes.

That could be argued pretty strongly yeah

But I think that undersells the uniqueness of capitalism. I don't think just because a society is homogenous that it can't create diversity and competition of thought within a single culture

That depends on the culture

case in point, "white culture"

pfft.

Which is to say, European.

Very diverse

wtf is 'white culture' even

Don't get me started on 'White Culture' or 'European Culture'.