Message from @Beemann

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2018-09-14 15:39:16 UTC  

They are not intrested in stopping terrorisim at all. Just keep enough of a lid on it so the the natives don't revolt. Look at now much power they have managed to grab, how many freedoms we have given up in the name of safety.

2018-09-14 15:42:33 UTC  

Im not disagreeing, I just find the honeypot excuse just... full of holes

2018-09-14 15:43:00 UTC  

I mean back then when you never heard of conservatives being censored on twitter or FB.

2018-09-14 15:43:08 UTC  

Or wernt aware of it.

2018-09-14 15:43:22 UTC  

And id say, because they never felt the need to

2018-09-14 15:47:03 UTC  

Well depending on the target the honeypot argument could still hold. You have to gather data before you use it. Never forget the Great Candid Shilling

2018-09-14 15:47:35 UTC  

Yeah.... It was alot more believable then

2018-09-14 15:47:42 UTC  

Honeypots are meant to ***catch*** people, and nobody is getting caught. They're still operating unimpeded.

2018-09-14 15:47:57 UTC  

But if it were a honeypot, then why leave those up? Theres also neo nazi groups still active on FB

2018-09-14 15:48:03 UTC  

Plenty of raping, stabbing, shooting, killing, etc.

2018-09-14 15:48:19 UTC  

Algorithms are honestly still shitter tier

2018-09-14 15:48:24 UTC  

Is the main problem

2018-09-14 15:48:52 UTC  

I think these companies are actually way less competent than people seem to want to imply

2018-09-14 15:49:02 UTC  

Well it dosent help that they have a very.... one sided view of whats acceptable

2018-09-14 15:49:10 UTC  

Like who watches the watchman

2018-09-14 15:49:23 UTC  

I had this argument with someone, he said that have an AI in charge of everything

2018-09-14 15:49:27 UTC  

But who codes the thing?

2018-09-14 15:49:35 UTC  

Well and they seem primarily concerned with people who have large viewerships

2018-09-14 15:49:42 UTC  

How do we know the AI isnt just the guy's will made manifest?

2018-09-14 15:50:02 UTC  

To the point where a lot of smalltime users are not punished for abusive behavior

2018-09-14 15:50:18 UTC  

Which may also be why extremist groups fly under the radar

2018-09-14 15:53:15 UTC  

So the implication being that the threshold of whats considered acceptable is higher the smaller your community is?

2018-09-14 15:57:19 UTC  

Which if you are free speech absolutist, you either punish everyone, or no one

2018-09-14 15:57:33 UTC  

Also,m they could rely on user reports like they do..

2018-09-14 15:57:59 UTC  

But theres also the bias there. People get banned for reposting anti white comments with white replaces.

2018-09-14 16:06:19 UTC  

They aren't absolutists though. This should be clear by now

2018-09-14 16:10:04 UTC  

There should be no doubt that the people in control of public discourse are anything but that

2018-09-14 16:10:55 UTC  

I mean the reason why people belive in anonymity is because theres nothing to gurantee that what happens online wont carry over to real life.

2018-09-14 19:37:23 UTC  

For all the Canadians: Mad Max just announced the Canadian version of the Libertarian party http://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca

2018-09-14 19:39:08 UTC  

You mean, as opposed to the Canadian Libertarian Party?

2018-09-14 19:44:35 UTC  

Seems like more of an actual right-wing party instead of the four or five flavors of socialism the Canadians usually have to choose from

2018-09-14 19:44:56 UTC  

Social democracy*

2018-09-14 19:45:19 UTC  

And yeah, dude wants to add private medical coverage and help deregulate the failing govt funded system

2018-09-14 19:45:41 UTC  

No mention of self defense laws that I could find though, which is a huge issue legally

2018-09-14 20:54:08 UTC  

I'm not a fan of the name because it sounds communist

2018-09-14 20:54:20 UTC  

But I agree with his platform

2018-09-14 20:54:38 UTC  

I think he could do well in the prairies and QC

2018-09-14 20:57:36 UTC  

Canada has "No right of self defense" as it's default legal foundation doesn't it?

2018-09-14 20:58:37 UTC  

Basically

2018-09-14 20:58:48 UTC  

It's actually the worst part

2018-09-14 21:04:58 UTC  

I didn't know Canada actually had a libertarian party lmao