Message from @scaryred24

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2018-09-27 00:03:43 UTC  

well heres where im kinda against using backup like that

2018-09-27 00:03:45 UTC  

so unless SJWs are going to hack America and fuck up everyone's backups, this isnt a thing

2018-09-27 00:04:09 UTC  

you are just archiving a 1:1 image of the os that was snapshoted at a very specific date

2018-09-27 00:04:24 UTC  

it might be stable enough now but what about later on down the road?

2018-09-27 00:05:01 UTC  

I know this will sound crazy to anyone who has never worked in IT, or talked to someone who has, but that shit happens *all the time*
People are still running earlier versions of MS Server software

2018-09-27 00:05:05 UTC  

like '03

2018-09-27 00:05:32 UTC  

there are companies with machines running on windows 3.0

2018-09-27 00:05:36 UTC  

so people are still running windows xp?

2018-09-27 00:05:42 UTC  

yes

2018-09-27 00:05:55 UTC  

like there are companies that are *just* upgrading to 7

2018-09-27 00:06:12 UTC  

well in a realistic scenario, virtual machines like that are supposed to be closed off from the general public from accessing them

2018-09-27 00:06:24 UTC  

think a lot of ATMs still us XP

2018-09-27 00:06:27 UTC  

legacy support exists for a reason

2018-09-27 00:06:30 UTC  

or at least they did not too long ago

2018-09-27 00:06:53 UTC  

thats the thing though- if the new version's fucked, people use the old one until an unfucked alternative is presented

2018-09-27 00:06:59 UTC  

for me once the legacy software stops functioning, you are left no choice but to upgrade to a newer variant or adopt something else

2018-09-27 00:07:32 UTC  

you would only hold onto legacy software until something makes it obsolete enough that it would hold no value

2018-09-27 00:07:40 UTC  

you've got it a bit backwards though. Enterprise software (third party at least) conforms to the needs of the consumer

2018-09-27 00:07:47 UTC  

the consumer being the company

2018-09-27 00:08:09 UTC  

which means those companies still end up supporting older versions becasue everyone's on XP/7/whatever

2018-09-27 00:11:11 UTC  

well you know how you get the customer to adopt newer operating systems

2018-09-27 00:11:20 UTC  

you choose to end support for said platforms

2018-09-27 00:11:23 UTC  

by not breaking the OS :^)

2018-09-27 00:11:47 UTC  

and that only works on new versions, which like... people only upgrade for new features/added utility

2018-09-27 00:12:02 UTC  

but the main point is i really dont care what you use for software on your os, i only care for the stability of the os itself

2018-09-27 00:12:32 UTC  

right but in terms of damage caused, a fucked patch isnt as bad as y'all are making it out to be. It happens all the time

2018-09-27 00:12:46 UTC  

it's unfortunate, but it's very surmountable

2018-09-27 00:13:04 UTC  

and then the question is: does a linux fork happen, or does mainline linux get better commits

2018-09-27 00:13:56 UTC  

okay in the short term, you would want to stick with what works the best for the entire scene

2018-09-27 00:14:07 UTC  

in the long term, when the fork gets better, you adopt that

2018-09-27 00:14:21 UTC  

that depends on who you're talking about, but sure

2018-09-27 00:14:25 UTC  

if you want to be an early adopter and use the fork as soon as it comes out, thats fine and all

2018-09-27 00:14:42 UTC  

but if you want stability or just want to run a server, you really dont want this

2018-09-27 00:15:14 UTC  

as linux has a stronger presence in the enterprise industry, it would seem to mater there

2018-09-27 00:15:29 UTC  

this coc change affects the home, non-commercial users

2018-09-27 00:15:33 UTC  

give it a few years

2018-09-27 00:15:45 UTC  

it will then affect those who runs servers

2018-09-27 00:16:10 UTC  

the CoC affects everything really
>important contributor hates CoC
>works on fork instead
>fork now has important changes and no CoC

2018-09-27 00:16:41 UTC  

>company now has to choose between CoC version and version with important changes

2018-09-27 00:16:56 UTC  

well the coc means nothing if you dont actively contribute to the scene

2018-09-27 00:17:06 UTC  

if you are paranoid, then sure it would