Message from @xorgy

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2018-10-01 05:50:16 UTC  

And much less so in a random, professionally-cut interview under no penalty, with a decidedly-hostile news organization.

2018-10-01 05:50:45 UTC  

This is a "She said, they said otherwise."

2018-10-01 05:56:48 UTC  

https://twitter.com/EFF/status/1046559134173130752 CA brings back net neutrality and makes building local broadband networks easier

2018-10-01 06:16:36 UTC  

Reading the report Schedrevka linked. It's refreshing to see that this is a matter of record.

2018-10-01 06:18:36 UTC  

This is seriously the most sane print on paper I've read in a while.

2018-10-01 06:18:46 UTC  

@aukkras No, what they've done is _made local broadband networks a concern of the state_, which will probably go very badly since this is California we are talking about.

2018-10-01 06:19:52 UTC  

When "city planners" determine how many fibers travel to you, and force you to pay into _their_ scheme, you are well and truly had by the balls.

2018-10-01 06:21:18 UTC  

Everything bad that's happened with the internet since the repeal seems to be stuff that has to do with tech giants originally built with government grants now owning all the platforms.

2018-10-01 06:21:55 UTC  

Aside from the Verizon throttling that fire department I guess

2018-10-01 06:21:59 UTC  

If they wanted to make building local broadband networks easier, they would find some way to enhance the permitting process for laying new fiber, and reduce the cost of buying space in cable conduits.

2018-10-01 06:22:12 UTC  

(and include cable conduits with new major road projects)

2018-10-01 06:22:26 UTC  

Well, it's not so much that Verizon throttled the fire department

2018-10-01 06:23:00 UTC  

it's that the fire department bought the wrong package, consistently overran their allotment, and then when the system automatically throttled their connection for misuse, they suddenly cared.

2018-10-01 06:23:20 UTC  

Yeah my mistake

2018-10-01 06:23:22 UTC  

it's great that it didn't just shut off, or some nonsense like that.

2018-10-01 06:23:32 UTC  

then they go crying to the press

2018-10-01 06:23:41 UTC  

"boo hoo we bought too little internet and it ran out"

2018-10-01 06:23:42 UTC  

I forgot the big worry without net neutrality is that like, Comcast will selectively throttle content

2018-10-01 06:24:00 UTC  

It's not like they woke up in the morning and thought "ahh, let's interrupt a city service"

2018-10-01 06:24:07 UTC  

"selectively"

2018-10-01 06:24:30 UTC  

I mean, Comcast has a thousand good reasons for shit to be delivered at different rates anyway.

2018-10-01 06:24:58 UTC  

from the basic technical perspective, their own first-party services, and services directly affiliated with them, are likely to be served from directly inside their own colocation centers.

2018-10-01 06:25:03 UTC  

(or even closer to the edge)

2018-10-01 06:25:19 UTC  

which means that they don't pay peering charges, and don't have to power up nearly as much equipment to make it work

2018-10-01 06:25:33 UTC  

seems to me that that should be allowed to be cheaper, it is in fact more efficient.

2018-10-01 06:25:59 UTC  

(not that that means you'll want Comcast's shitty streaming service, because chances are they will not get the hot licenses Netflix gets, nor those juicy juicy Netflix originals; ditto for HBO)

2018-10-01 06:26:56 UTC  

And sure, they're sleazy, and constantly trying to take advantage of you

2018-10-01 06:27:19 UTC  

but they're not so unscrupulous that they would do things so obvious that you would complain en masse.

2018-10-01 06:27:23 UTC  

Comcast is a monopoly, they're always gonna fuck me one way or another

2018-10-01 06:27:30 UTC  

they are rarely a monopoly

2018-10-01 06:27:35 UTC  

They are in my area

2018-10-01 06:27:40 UTC  

I doubt that

2018-10-01 06:27:44 UTC  

you can probably get directional radio

2018-10-01 06:28:00 UTC  

just maybe not DSL or cable or fiber from anyone else

2018-10-01 06:28:24 UTC  

I was in one of the areas selected for a download cap so I thought I was but I can look into whether that's changed

2018-10-01 06:29:27 UTC  

And honestly Comcast having their service in your county is a matter of them being proactive with your crony government.

2018-10-01 06:29:49 UTC  

Comcast are the ones willing to send the lawyers with nice steak dinners and hot tubs

2018-10-01 06:30:06 UTC  

Comcast is a lot better than they were 15 years ago anyway

2018-10-01 06:30:07 UTC  

Your politicians are the ones who say whether people get to use the utility poles or not.

2018-10-01 06:30:31 UTC  

The folks at Comcast are subject to pressure, if they become much worse than an upstart alternative could quickly become.