Message from @Deleted User

Discord ID: 456438304489865226


2018-06-13 12:37:54 UTC  

>there was legal uncertainty regarding the precise circumstances in which this exception to preserve the life of the mother would apply in practice, as the matter had not yet been enacted in legislation.

2018-06-13 12:38:08 UTC  

if its not written in law then its null and void

2018-06-13 12:38:48 UTC  

it wasn't that they didn't abort because of the law, it was because the law didn't specify the specific circumstances

2018-06-13 12:39:15 UTC  

I don't give a shit how it changed

2018-06-13 12:39:29 UTC  

I'm looking for who's responsible for this

2018-06-13 12:39:38 UTC  

and so far its entirely doctors fault

2018-06-13 12:39:52 UTC  

utterly nothing wrong with the policy

2018-06-13 12:39:58 UTC  

and doctor could've acted

2018-06-13 12:40:03 UTC  

because it wasn't specified in law

2018-06-13 12:40:17 UTC  

Doctors dont make laws

2018-06-13 12:40:20 UTC  

however he didn't and this moment of uncertainty led to a death

2018-06-13 12:40:30 UTC  

not what I said

2018-06-13 12:41:10 UTC  

If the law doesnt specify they cant act

2018-06-13 12:41:22 UTC  

Its their life or the patients

2018-06-13 12:42:16 UTC  

And strict laws like that force the doctors to need to take chances lile what was in this case

2018-06-13 12:42:26 UTC  

as I said before, even if they went to courts this could be settled by doctors

2018-06-13 12:42:31 UTC  

they saved a life in the end

2018-06-13 12:42:41 UTC  

What?

2018-06-13 12:42:50 UTC  

The baby and mother died

2018-06-13 12:42:52 UTC  

and it was already a miscarriage

2018-06-13 12:42:59 UTC  

Who did they save?

2018-06-13 12:43:03 UTC  

in the hypothetical that the mother lived

2018-06-13 12:43:21 UTC  

and that the doctors saved her

2018-06-13 12:43:32 UTC  

by aborting the miscarriage

2018-06-13 12:43:36 UTC  

like

2018-06-13 12:43:44 UTC  

this is the point we've gotten to

2018-06-13 12:43:53 UTC  

aborting the miscarriage, sure why not

2018-06-13 12:43:59 UTC  

the child is already dead

2018-06-13 12:45:01 UTC  

But according to the law at the time they would lose their licenses most likely as they had not yet detected a threat to the mother

2018-06-13 12:46:18 UTC  

and now they have a death on their consciousness

2018-06-13 12:46:23 UTC  

It was probable and highly likely. But it hadnt been verified. Just saying that allowing for looser policy doesnt give free reign to abort everything

2018-06-13 12:46:47 UTC  

Better than them losing their entire life and going to jail

2018-06-13 12:47:00 UTC  

how is that better

2018-06-13 12:47:18 UTC  

Because it follows the rules ypu want them too

2018-06-13 12:47:24 UTC  

I rather lose everything and go to jail than have a death on my consciousness

2018-06-13 12:48:19 UTC  

it really makes me doubt the doctor if he thinks his livelihood is more improtant than your life

2018-06-13 12:49:14 UTC  

His life vs mine Id expect them to choose theirs everytime

2018-06-13 12:49:26 UTC  

Especially if the law backed it up

2018-06-13 12:49:31 UTC  

I don't want that person to treat me

2018-06-13 12:49:41 UTC  

anyway I'm done discussing this, got shit to do