Message from @Little Boots

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2018-06-27 01:41:36 UTC  

Just like people dont care about laws sometimes

2018-06-27 01:41:40 UTC  

"Hey, look, there's a tall woman! Your statement is false!" - Non-arguments.

2018-06-27 01:41:50 UTC  

And those people are exceptions.

2018-06-27 01:42:08 UTC  

You're right, because they don't believe in a god.

2018-06-27 01:42:12 UTC  

So religion works except when it doesnt...

2018-06-27 01:42:26 UTC  

And laws work except when it doesn't.

2018-06-27 01:42:32 UTC  

Well not in the traditional sense. Everyone believes in a god. But for an atheist, that god is himself.

2018-06-27 01:42:57 UTC  

you may not fear Hell in your normal life, but if you actually believe in Hell or think there is a chance, and you think you could go there, you will fear it and you will have an uncomfortable death

2018-06-27 01:43:01 UTC  

The point being laws apply even if you dont believe them

2018-06-27 01:43:32 UTC  

And Laws have a much easier habit of resulting in tyranny.

2018-06-27 01:43:35 UTC  

Morals do not.

2018-06-27 01:44:03 UTC  

Religion resulted in tyranny when it was the law

2018-06-27 01:44:19 UTC  

Morals arent religion

2018-06-27 01:44:43 UTC  

Depending on the religion yes

2018-06-27 01:44:59 UTC  

You can have morals without religion

2018-06-27 01:45:06 UTC  

Tell me what right a man has to decide what is moral

2018-06-27 01:45:10 UTC  

Not so much the other way

2018-06-27 01:45:18 UTC  

However, religion is the best entity of actually getting people to agree with your morality.

2018-06-27 01:45:49 UTC  

Also, religion was the result of the need for explanations and was the result of society agreeing on common principles and figures.

2018-06-27 01:45:51 UTC  

Man can weigh the good and make decisions based on that

2018-06-27 01:46:02 UTC  

Ehzek, define "good."

2018-06-27 01:46:21 UTC  

With the highest morality comming from what is best for you and others

2018-06-27 01:46:34 UTC  

Who decides what is best?

2018-06-27 01:46:57 UTC  

Alright, what is the best for you and others?

2018-06-27 01:47:16 UTC  

In fact, tell me what can be considered "good" in an objective manner?

2018-06-27 01:47:19 UTC  

What is "best" for a poor family is to slaughter a rich family and take everything from them. As has happened in every godless communist revolution

2018-06-27 01:47:23 UTC  

When you treat others as yourself and wouldnt do something to others that you wouldnt want done to you

2018-06-27 01:47:53 UTC  

Except that slaughter is bad because slaughtering the poor family would be bad for the poor family

2018-06-27 01:47:58 UTC  

What if I deem it better to take your things so I can "help" others?

2018-06-27 01:48:05 UTC  

Therefore its not right

2018-06-27 01:48:54 UTC  

Its only right if it would also be better to the same to you in that situation which it isnt

2018-06-27 01:48:56 UTC  

But what if that slaughter was done for the greater good?

2018-06-27 01:49:08 UTC  

And what gives this "Golden rule" you propose any more legitimacy than communism, survival of the fittest, or any other system?

2018-06-27 01:49:35 UTC  

It cant be the greater good because no person would advocate their own slaughter

2018-06-27 01:49:58 UTC  

Who are you to decide good?

2018-06-27 01:50:05 UTC  

When you divide into groups it becomes immoral

2018-06-27 01:50:08 UTC  

Is what is good for one man the same for all men?

2018-06-27 01:50:20 UTC  

We know this through intelligence.

2018-06-27 01:51:20 UTC  

If you try and slaughter the rich they use the riches to protect and enslave the poor trying to rise up

2018-06-27 01:51:31 UTC  

Where does intelligence come from? What determines more intelligent from less intelligent?

2018-06-27 01:51:32 UTC  

And take others down for your own benefit