Message from @Little Boots
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Listen and believe is sorta Theists whole thing though...
Actually, no. Listen and believe is pretty common among Atheists, especially when referring to the Bible.
That doesnt mean Theists dont do the same
If you "interpret" the text differently you are a different denomination but within that you all belive roughly the same thing
The difference is that Atheists claim they don't do it and chastize Theists for doing it.
The same cant be said of athiest
When an Atheist does it, it makes them a hypocrite.
Not really its all part of learning
Listen/Learn Believe/Doubt
You will mostly do either or and move on from there
Its such a broad criticism. "Athiests make fun of Theists and Theist breathe, but Athiest also breath. Isnt that so hypocritical?"
That's disenginuous.
You would need a specific argument to even start to make sense of what you said
It's more like "Atheists accuse Theists of breathing, but they turn around and breathe themselves. Isn't that so hypocritical?"
Thats a better analogy
Because it's what I'm actually saying.
Atheists accuse Theists of cherry-picking, but then they turn around and then cherry-pick passages to support their points.
That *is* hypocrisy.
They are suppose to refute every point?
No, they are supposed to hold themselves to the same standards they hold Theists.
If they complain about Theists having a "listen and believe" mentality, then they shouldn't have their own version of it.
But its the Theist belief being used
If they complain about Theists cherry-picking, then they shouldn't cherry-pick themselves.
If there are flaws in one part it sorta deyracts from the message for the outsiders
No, this is me observing how Atheist groups and pages work.
Whats being accused is that Theists cherry pick what they follow in their own religion
However, Ehzek, that doesn't justify Atheists doing the same thing.
But what is cherry picked by athiest is still part of the religion regardless
If you accuse someone of cherry-picking, you shouldn't cherry-pick regardless.
If you do, you are no better than the person you accused and, if anything, you look worse than the person you are accusing.
Its pointing out the hypocrisy of the religion
By being hypocritical yourself.
That's the problem.
What you are basically saying is that they shouldn't point out the hypocrisy..
If you're being hypocritical yourself, your argument is invalidating itself.
No you aren listening
"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."
Atheist are not cherry picking their own beliefs
Ehzek, but they are cherry-picking from the Bible to make their point.
Yes
Which they accuse Theists of doing.