Message from @Ehzek

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2018-07-03 00:58:34 UTC  

Its such a broad criticism. "Athiests make fun of Theists and Theist breathe, but Athiest also breath. Isnt that so hypocritical?"

2018-07-03 00:59:01 UTC  

That's disenginuous.

2018-07-03 00:59:22 UTC  

You would need a specific argument to even start to make sense of what you said

2018-07-03 00:59:23 UTC  

It's more like "Atheists accuse Theists of breathing, but they turn around and breathe themselves. Isn't that so hypocritical?"

2018-07-03 00:59:36 UTC  

Thats a better analogy

2018-07-03 00:59:47 UTC  

Because it's what I'm actually saying.

2018-07-03 01:00:09 UTC  

Atheists accuse Theists of cherry-picking, but then they turn around and then cherry-pick passages to support their points.

2018-07-03 01:00:15 UTC  

That *is* hypocrisy.

2018-07-03 01:00:44 UTC  

They are suppose to refute every point?

2018-07-03 01:01:01 UTC  

No, they are supposed to hold themselves to the same standards they hold Theists.

2018-07-03 01:01:26 UTC  

If they complain about Theists having a "listen and believe" mentality, then they shouldn't have their own version of it.

2018-07-03 01:01:28 UTC  

But its the Theist belief being used

2018-07-03 01:01:48 UTC  

If they complain about Theists cherry-picking, then they shouldn't cherry-pick themselves.

2018-07-03 01:01:56 UTC  

If there are flaws in one part it sorta deyracts from the message for the outsiders

2018-07-03 01:02:07 UTC  

No, this is me observing how Atheist groups and pages work.

2018-07-03 01:02:33 UTC  

Whats being accused is that Theists cherry pick what they follow in their own religion

2018-07-03 01:03:03 UTC  

However, Ehzek, that doesn't justify Atheists doing the same thing.

2018-07-03 01:03:06 UTC  

But what is cherry picked by athiest is still part of the religion regardless

2018-07-03 01:03:27 UTC  

If you accuse someone of cherry-picking, you shouldn't cherry-pick regardless.

2018-07-03 01:03:49 UTC  

If you do, you are no better than the person you accused and, if anything, you look worse than the person you are accusing.

2018-07-03 01:04:14 UTC  

Its pointing out the hypocrisy of the religion

2018-07-03 01:04:23 UTC  

By being hypocritical yourself.

2018-07-03 01:04:31 UTC  

That's the problem.

2018-07-03 01:04:36 UTC  

What you are basically saying is that they shouldn't point out the hypocrisy..

2018-07-03 01:04:48 UTC  

If you're being hypocritical yourself, your argument is invalidating itself.

2018-07-03 01:05:05 UTC  

No you aren listening

2018-07-03 01:05:09 UTC  

"Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

2018-07-03 01:05:19 UTC  

Atheist are not cherry picking their own beliefs

2018-07-03 01:05:54 UTC  

Ehzek, but they are cherry-picking from the Bible to make their point.

2018-07-03 01:06:03 UTC  

Yes

2018-07-03 01:06:16 UTC  

Which they accuse Theists of doing.

2018-07-03 01:06:25 UTC  

Hypo critical would be if there was an atheist bible and they cherry picked that

2018-07-03 01:06:32 UTC  

Ehzek, two lefts don't make a right.

2018-07-03 01:06:37 UTC  

You are argueing false equivalence

2018-07-03 01:06:41 UTC  

No.

2018-07-03 01:06:48 UTC  

I am arguing for consistency.

2018-07-03 01:07:01 UTC  

If you are going to argue against a religion, don't do the thing you accuse your enemies of doing.

2018-07-03 01:07:31 UTC  

They arent cherry picking their religion

2018-07-03 01:08:05 UTC  

That is what they are accusing theists of.

2018-07-03 01:08:55 UTC  

No.

2018-07-03 01:09:05 UTC  

They are accusing Theists of cherry-picking from the Bible itself.