except that not anything, and why is allah reversed and rotated

@Deleted User islam is cancer

what about the Based Imam Tawhidi

taqiyya

dont trust them

@Rothguard

take it from an apostate

i am an appstate kaffir dog

proudly

and im a christian, apostate kuffar pig

BAH

what?

@Rothguard

my base level is " western values " going down to the lower levels of " white " and " christian " is too narrow a bandwith for me to operate in

at that level you have to accept westboro baptists and actual nazis as being aceptable

neither of which have anything resembling civilized thoughts

Westboro Baptists and Nazis aren’t Christian in any sense. Reading verses from the Bible doesn’t make you a Christian. And western values are Christian values.

If you go down to “whiteness” then you’re correct, you would have to accept the most vile examples of white people. Narrowing to Christian, does not include those groups as acceptable.

Just like Somnkho said, you can’t trust Muslims. Their goal is to convert you or kill you in the name of Allah. The conversion process can include anything it takes as long as the end goal is converting you. They can lie, rape, murder, steal, and in some cases do things that are forbidden in Islam like eating pork to convert you.

@Andrules oh also but you can make taqiyya to spread islam or if your life is in danger

they start as saying islam is peace and winning converts

stage 1 of jihad

then when they grow they start being violent and then they start slowly implementing their rule with their allied

stage 2

then they outright conquer you

stage 3

usa and north america is stage 1

europe is stage 2

pakistan afghanistan iraq etc are stage 3

For example, a person may fear that he might be killed or harmed if he does not observe taqiyya. In this case, taqiyya is allowed. However, in some circumstances taqiyya may lead to the death of an innocent person; if so, it is not permissible; it is haraam(forbidden) to kill a human being to save one's own life.[26] Some Shias, though, advance taqiyya as a form of jihad, a sort of fighting against their adversaries.[27]

tawihidi is shia

Sunni view

Al-Tabaricomments on sura XVI, verse 106 (Tafsir, Bulak 1323, xxiv, 122): "If any one is compelled and professes unbelief with his tongue, while his heart contradicts him, in order to escape his enemies, no blame falls on him, because God takes his servants as their hearts believe." This verse was recorded after Ammar Yasir was forced by the idolaters of Mecca to recant his faith and denounce theIslamic prophet Muhammad. Al-Tabari explains that concealing one's faith is only justified if the person is in mortal danger, and even then martyrdom is considered a noble alternative. If threatened, it would be preferable for a Muslim to migrate to a more peaceful place where a person may practice their faith openly, "since God's earth is wide."[

i think the converts to christianity are legit if they werent shia

if they are shia it is debateable

@Andrules @Rothguard

but we should move this to <#444628746788536330>

Well this is “religious” in nature. I feel it still belongs here personally.

i guess

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/08/14/us/pennsylvania-catholic-church-grand-jury/index.html

Mormons function in a similar manner. Pretend they’re ultra conservative/traditional and use the King James Version of the Bible. Get you in their religion, and when they feel “you’re ready” they unveil all the weird stuff. Like multiple gods, different layers of heaven, have to believe that Joseph Smith was/is a god, following their extra book. All that stuff comes later. I would use the term brainwashed.