you say "it has to be" and "just look at existance" but have provided no proof.. only opinion and speculation

I never said it WASNT possible... but you are saying it is the ONLY possibility

We still have written accounts of what happened. An accused Christian was condemned to death, but could be pardoned by denouncing Christianity and reverting back to Roman paganism

Naturally that did happen

I don't believe in your ONLY possibility and understand alternative ideas on the matter that have tangible proof that can be tested

But, that was the exception rather than the rule. Around two million people willingly chose to die horrible and torturous deaths for an idea.

Logically speaking, the universe needs a cause.

It is an effect.

logically speaking, a creator needs a cause too then

Why did those people choose death? It is documented that they died, and that they chose to die. That cannot be denied

No.

yes

A cause does not need a cause in of itself.

the creator of a painting did not just pop in existance... the creator needed to be created.. . the creator is the effect, what was its cause?

Not of the creator is perpetual and eternal.

no such thing

How do you know?

because I have not seen proof of eternity or anything perpetual

Nobody answered my question though

conservation of energy laws... even the universe has an expire date

Guess it was a difficult one and the answer holds a truth that the one asked is afraid to accept

ragnarok.. why did people choose death? they were afraid of damnation

the church is nothing but a control mechanism designed to keep sheep in fear of the wolf (devil)

it is the oldest and most successful scam in history

there are 10,000 just like christianity, and each follower of their own KNOWS theirs is right

and offer the same.... proof..... you offer

That isn't proof.

now, enjoy your religious defense on a RELIGION SHITPOSTING channel.. .I will be back with more hot pokers for your butthurt later

little boots, you havent presented any proof either

"The absence of evidence is not evidence of absense."

If those people did not know for sure, why did they choose to be tortured to death?

Christianity stands alone. Actually look at the other religions and try again. You’ll find similarities, but Christianity is unique.

no christianity stole a lot from pagans

Nor am I because it's an unknown.

and if you think otherwise you are a fucking moron

That includes a generation of people who claim to have witnessed Jesus' miracles firsthand. They chose death.

Joey name them please

Christianity stole nothing from pagans. Try again.

Ok... Christmas... aka Yule is a big one

Well... the image of Satan is usually a pagan image

So there’s that.