You can't blame Trump for bring to the surface what has been building for years.

Indeed, but he's really making things worse

Nobody can sow discord and division like the left.

Is he really the sole divider when the media has been painting him as an orange Hitler and when they've flipped on their prior positions to critique him?

I'm going to have to disagree. If it didn't start now it would of started another time by something else.

trump is not the cause. trump is the symptom

the american right under obama was seething with rage

and in my opinion for good reason

Trump is the response.

You lot need to get it out of your system and if Trump is going to speed it up then I think he's helping.

@Atkins But it goes back further. Back during Bush the left was absolutely off the wall.

they didn't expect trump to win. trump was a giant middle finger at what they thought was a corrupt system.

I also remember the fuck Bush years

oh yeah. i remember watching "that's my bush"

It was far wider than the Obama years.

If were going back that far pratel, then the right during the Clinton years were absolutely unhinged

Get what out of our system exactly? Our survival instinct as a nation?

And Bushgame.swf on Newgrounds.

Haidt has pushed it to Reagan.

Bushgame was the moment at which I knew the left had gone mad.

There was a sea change and the left decided it couldn't stand the right.

It was only in the last 2 years that the hate got retaliated.

Voltron assraping the statue of liberty.

Tbh Clinton was shady AF

For effs sake pratel the right during both Clinton and Obama years were completely unhinged beyond belief

Maybe everyone felt this way during their era but the presidential pickings during my lifetime have been a bit shit. I'm surprised y'all haven't done any table flips

Obama years had a lot of zealots as well

Remember when people were only criticizing him because they were racist? Remember when people just glossed over all the drone strikes and country destabilizations despite those being primo critiques against Bush?

Political discourse in the US has not been honest

A) The left (not center-left) were really pissed off with Obama about the Drone strikes and not going hard enough against Wall St. They blasted him hard.

Plus, under that logic, the right should have been supportive of Obama for continuing Bush's foreign policy, and also implementing a healthcare policy that was originally their idea.

Agreed. I may not be from the US but I'm on the left and bashed Obama for that shit weekly.

Interestingly, not everyone on the right is a neocon

The neocons are getting thrown out, in fact.

See Max Boot.

Little slip there.

Not really. Trump is bringing them back in

John Bolton anyone?

Trump is an interesting figure when nominating people.

Neocons were btfo'd by Trump in 2016.

Remember all those times masked right-wingers smashed windows and burned cars? Oh yeah...