Sorry. Phone is fucked up let me get my laptop

https://niskanencenter.org/blog/there-is-no-campus-free-speech-crisis-a-close-look-at-the-evidence/

article 1: https://heterodoxacademy.org/the-skeptics-are-wrong-part-2/

Also for those not in the know, Niskanen is a left-of-center think tank.

Campus are charging hundreds of thousands of dollars for ppl to speak in case the Left starts burning shit.

heterodox is a non-partisan organization dedicated to free speech and ideological diversity.

Left-leaning libertarian, Pratel

Whatever.

Here's the other parts. https://heterodoxacademy.org/skeptics-are-wrong-about-campus-speech/

https://heterodoxacademy.org/the-skeptics-are-wrong-part-3-intolerance-levels-are-high/

That Niskansen article was one of a number that showed up in places like Vox almost all at once to try and argue that the mobs going around on campus smashing up right-of-center displays, harrassing right-leaning students and even terrifying left-leaning faculty were "just normal"

It wasn't at all convincing if you'd followed all the dis-invitation attempts and shout-downs.

And the surveys of students have been pretty clear that most feel intimidated, primarily by other students.

so as i was trying to say. @Poppy Rider i believe @Ace K was saying was not defending the far left. but the center left. they *are* victims to far left attacks. the Far Left have attacked everyone.

That is correct.

The far left took control and is terrifying and harrassing everyone.

But increasingly, unfortunately, the far left *is* the left because it has organization and institutional control.

And no one feels really empowered to push back against it.

The center left are the biggest victims.

The far-left is dangerous, but the fact that people here are ignoring that the far-right is increasingly becoming the norm for the right is just downright troubling.

I just don't see that though.

What is "the far right"?

The right disavows the Nazis whenever it gets the chance (unless you just read /r/politics).

90% of the "far right" is false flags and misidentification

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@Rjfenix I would tend to agree but when you look at the students at Evergreen these kids aren't 'far-left' they are left wing authoritarians.

Which makes it worse, because when people are calling you a nazi...you begin to get curious.

I do'nt think it is just the 'far-left' shutting ppl down.

Looking over the niskanen center article I find its study weak and its sources of wapo and vox questionable. I found counter arguments from a competing ngo
https://www.thefire.org/newsdesk/

@Poppy Rider define "far left" I define far left as the social justice obsessed authoritarian wanna-be communist left.

Nah @pratel I'm not curious at all.

I still wanna know what makes the far "right" "right" in the first place

Disavowing nazi's is one thing, but actions speak louder than words. Not to mention that nazi's aren't the only far-right groups in America

I mean look at how some GOP officials are supporting the Proud Boys

Night all, thanks for the convo

@Rjfenix I don't mean you start looking into nazi ideology. I mean, you get increasingly skeptical when people throw around "nazi" and become more willing to consider the possibility they're more similar than to you than you realize.

Which is what the actual nazis want.

Far-left as in full blown socialist. These are not the majority of SJWs that are burning shit and crying like babies when they hear something they don't like. This is becoming the main left growing up right now. @Rjfenix

@Ace K and democrat lawyers are threatening judges and juries to defend ANTIFA.

disavowing nazis looks pretty hollow when you have them sieg heiling you, marching in your name, and even running as republicans in elections

@Poppy Rider I think we're talking about the same thing.

>you're responsible for everyone who likes you