Message from @Ace K

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2018-10-24 20:53:08 UTC  

Beep boop.

2018-10-24 20:53:23 UTC  

But They are here to talk, I'll talk.

2018-10-24 20:53:25 UTC  

I can go find that paper if you don't believe me.

2018-10-24 20:53:46 UTC  

I'm just honestly surprised by the blatant hypocrisy, especially since the dangers presented 'from the left' are vastly overstated

2018-10-24 20:53:55 UTC  

Now you're just deflecting.

2018-10-24 20:54:14 UTC  

@Ace K as an non american. My perspective of the american two part system is that the parties does function more like electoral groups. They both span a multitude of what would be considered independent parties in europe. For example i saw a yt vid claiming there are 14 distinct groupings in the US republican party, and I think the same goes for the Democratic party. I find it interesting that โ€œsocialistโ€ group in the dems is gaining power and pushing out the classical liberals, embodied by JFK. Of those that leave the majority is going independent/abstaining and a minority of the are going republican.

2018-10-24 20:54:16 UTC  

Dangers from the right is vastly overstated

2018-10-24 20:54:41 UTC  

@4AM_critter ๐Ÿ‰ that's very much how it tends to work actually.

2018-10-24 20:55:04 UTC  

Because there's only 2 parties, people with semi-similar interests tend to group up.

2018-10-24 20:55:12 UTC  

That's also why you hear about "single issue voters"

2018-10-24 20:55:14 UTC  
2018-10-24 20:55:32 UTC  

That's mostly because the parties are becoming ideologically homogenous, @4AM_critter ๐Ÿ‰

2018-10-24 20:55:43 UTC  

@Rjfenix With respect to?

2018-10-24 20:55:51 UTC  

@Rjfenix In what

2018-10-24 20:56:23 UTC  

Sorry. Phone is fucked up let me get my laptop

2018-10-24 20:57:51 UTC  

Also for those not in the know, Niskanen is a left-of-center think tank.

2018-10-24 20:58:07 UTC  

Campus are charging hundreds of thousands of dollars for ppl to speak in case the Left starts burning shit.

2018-10-24 20:58:10 UTC  

heterodox is a non-partisan organization dedicated to free speech and ideological diversity.

2018-10-24 20:58:42 UTC  

Left-leaning libertarian, Pratel

2018-10-24 20:59:20 UTC  

Whatever.

2018-10-24 21:00:27 UTC  

That Niskansen article was one of a number that showed up in places like Vox almost all at once to try and argue that the mobs going around on campus smashing up right-of-center displays, harrassing right-leaning students and even terrifying left-leaning faculty were "just normal"

2018-10-24 21:01:06 UTC  

It wasn't at all convincing if you'd followed all the dis-invitation attempts and shout-downs.

2018-10-24 21:01:24 UTC  

And the surveys of students have been pretty clear that most feel intimidated, primarily by other students.

2018-10-24 21:01:38 UTC  

so as i was trying to say. @Poppy Rider i believe @Ace K was saying was not defending the far left. but the center left. they *are* victims to far left attacks. the Far Left have attacked everyone.

2018-10-24 21:01:50 UTC  

That is correct.

2018-10-24 21:02:00 UTC  

The far left took control and is terrifying and harrassing everyone.

2018-10-24 21:02:21 UTC  

But increasingly, unfortunately, the far left *is* the left because it has organization and institutional control.

2018-10-24 21:02:46 UTC  

And no one feels really empowered to push back against it.

2018-10-24 21:02:55 UTC  

The center left are the biggest victims.

2018-10-24 21:03:05 UTC  

The far-left is dangerous, but the fact that people here are ignoring that the far-right is increasingly becoming the norm for the right is just downright troubling.

2018-10-24 21:03:18 UTC  

I just don't see that though.

2018-10-24 21:03:25 UTC  

What is "the far right"?

2018-10-24 21:03:39 UTC  

The right disavows the Nazis whenever it gets the chance (unless you just read /r/politics).

2018-10-24 21:03:56 UTC  

90% of the "far right" is false flags and misidentification

2018-10-24 21:04:04 UTC  

^

2018-10-24 21:04:13 UTC  

@Rjfenix I would tend to agree but when you look at the students at Evergreen these kids aren't 'far-left' they are left wing authoritarians.

2018-10-24 21:04:22 UTC  

Which makes it worse, because when people are calling you a nazi...you begin to get curious.