Message from @Deleted User

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2019-05-21 15:23:30 UTC  

scroll down for church governance and jurisdiction

2019-05-21 15:23:36 UTC  

Thanks.

2019-05-21 15:23:41 UTC  

if you want a more in-depth analysis I can send you one

2019-05-21 15:23:46 UTC  

Screenshots don’t always do well on the phone 🤣

2019-05-21 15:23:56 UTC  

true, I forgot you aren't on pc 😛

2019-05-21 15:25:09 UTC  

They work okay when I take them and crop everything around. Desktop likes to make it huge, then discord compresses the image. So it gets all fuzzy when I try to zoom in.

2019-05-21 15:27:46 UTC  

I'll send you in pm a more in-depth analysis of how orthodoxy is structured

2019-05-21 15:34:17 UTC  

👍🏻

2019-05-21 15:34:26 UTC  

So there’s 15 bishops?

2019-05-21 15:34:56 UTC  

Or does every worship center have a bishop?

2019-05-21 15:37:48 UTC  

Pretty sure they have more than that

2019-05-21 15:37:54 UTC  

We have thousands

2019-05-21 15:39:02 UTC  

@Andrules Kinda a lot as they do have different ranks

2019-05-21 15:39:24 UTC  

Yeah and a bishop reigns over a diocese. Which is several parishes. Referring to rags on Catholics.

2019-05-21 15:40:05 UTC  

It's just that its bishop has authority only in his church and not the others

2019-05-21 15:40:48 UTC  

So they have authority only in their own jurisdiction

2019-05-21 15:42:26 UTC  

Same here

2019-05-21 15:42:27 UTC  

But then you have councils of bishops that meet to keep the church doctrine established.

2019-05-21 15:42:39 UTC  

The wiki says synods.

2019-05-21 15:42:44 UTC  

Except the Bishop of Rome has primacy

2019-05-21 15:42:53 UTC  

Ecumenical council, synod etc

2019-05-21 15:43:07 UTC  

So you have synods of bishops that convene and determine Orthodox Church doctrine.

2019-05-21 15:43:57 UTC  

Our doctrines and theirs are pretty much settled already. Councils just clarify ideas and interpretations

2019-05-21 15:44:07 UTC  

So Orthodox is decentralized, in that you don’t have a pope, but you still have a governing body that keeps the Orthodox Church in line.

2019-05-21 15:44:34 UTC  

Yes, the autocephales are meant to keep their church in-line

2019-05-21 15:45:01 UTC  

If one of the bishops decides to change, it seems that he and his churches would be removed from the title of orthodox.

2019-05-21 15:45:12 UTC  

what do you mean change?

2019-05-21 15:45:26 UTC  

Like no longer considered orthodox by the the others.

2019-05-21 15:45:32 UTC  

No

2019-05-21 15:46:07 UTC  

they would be either schismatic so the communion with the churches would end

2019-05-21 15:46:21 UTC  

like the church of Constantinople with the church of Russia

2019-05-21 15:46:59 UTC  

@Deleted User yeah that’s what I meant. I know y’alls doctrines are basically established and unchanging. But like you said, questions arise about interpretations of verses and stuff.

2019-05-21 15:47:26 UTC  

Ah ok. So Russia and “Greek” orthodox aren’t in communion now?

2019-05-21 15:47:36 UTC  

wrong

2019-05-21 15:47:45 UTC  

Greece has its own church nowdays

2019-05-21 15:48:01 UTC  

it isn't the same church with Constantinople

2019-05-21 15:48:14 UTC  

Oh I see.

2019-05-21 15:48:37 UTC  

Before our revolution against the ottomans we were under the jurisdiction of Constantinople

2019-05-21 15:50:35 UTC  

The only thing I could say that its bad in a decentralized church is that it can be weaponized like it has been done in Russia numerous times

2019-05-21 15:51:36 UTC  

Yeah. There’s a lot of pros and cons in a centralized vs decentralized church.

2019-05-21 15:52:22 UTC  

Local pastors can be corrupted and paid off to influence people. And without a governing body for them to report to, it may never be discovered.