Message from @Jasse

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2018-10-29 12:34:07 UTC  

turkey should have no power over the people in germany

2018-10-29 12:34:28 UTC  

Exactly

2018-10-29 12:34:36 UTC  

but you've seen the Böhmermann Incident??

2018-10-29 12:34:39 UTC  

Turkey has no power against german citizens.

2018-10-29 12:34:48 UTC  

Twitter is only doing that to hide the artificial nature of its promotion algorithms.

2018-10-29 12:34:58 UTC  

It was publicly unpopular so they didn't go with the prosecution but it was in the works!

2018-10-29 12:36:21 UTC  

was that the guy that called him a goatfucker?

2018-10-29 12:37:48 UTC  

german politicians spend way too much effort trying to brownnose erdogan

2018-10-29 12:38:41 UTC  

Yes, that was the guy

2018-10-29 12:39:02 UTC  

Too many German Politicans are Islamophile...

2018-10-29 12:39:09 UTC  

only AfD speaks truth in Parliament.

2018-10-29 12:39:19 UTC  

and are called alt-right/right wing extremists and all that shit

2018-10-29 12:39:51 UTC  

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2018-10-29 12:39:57 UTC  

AfD is a bunch of dipshits

2018-10-29 12:40:49 UTC  

literally no stances other than "muh migrant crime"

2018-10-29 12:42:21 UTC  

not true, they have other positions as well, but that's not talked about because the pres is soo dishonest about them

2018-10-29 12:46:17 UTC  

nah, that's the only consistent message they have put out
once in a while, they try to present themselves as pro-free market, anti-feminist, anti-islam, pro-direct democracy or whatever tf else
but ultimately, their only core ideal is "islam bad, brown people bad, germany is for germans"

2018-10-29 12:47:15 UTC  

they're also climate change skeptics, which immediately prevents me from taking them seriously

2018-10-29 13:15:45 UTC  

@shinsoo why that prevents you taking them seriously?
not even one study/predition were right.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/506456104465858561/1539206407215.png

2018-10-29 13:17:16 UTC  

don't bother, i already can't take you any less seriously

2018-10-29 13:20:50 UTC  
2018-10-29 13:20:59 UTC  

at least you can take real data seriously

2018-10-29 13:25:56 UTC  

What's wrong with being a skeptic? That doesnt mean you're ignoring facts, it just means you're not convinced by the only data we have. We are looking at data from a tiny snapshot of time compared to Earth's existence, and have no way of knowing if this is part of a natural cycle of warming and cooling that Earth would be undergoing even if our input wasn't a factor

2018-10-29 13:27:27 UTC  

Being skeptical of the presuppositions that most climate change advocates push isnt that radical

2018-10-29 13:27:56 UTC  

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2018-10-29 13:30:10 UTC  

Being closed minded isn't very scientific, nor is making presumptions. Being sceptical is a scientific approach, since it opens us up to continually questioning our assumptions, and running further tests and analyses.

2018-10-29 13:31:09 UTC  

@shinsoo at least read basics first.
like logarithmic dependence of temperature on CO2 levels and El Niño

2018-10-29 13:31:59 UTC  

yeah, nah
i'm not engaging conspiracy theorists

2018-10-29 13:32:26 UTC  

Theres nothing in what I said that's even remotely conspiratorial

2018-10-29 13:32:48 UTC  

every scientist acnowlendges those affects...🤦🏻

2018-10-29 13:33:24 UTC  

you're fine, i'm referring to Jasse

2018-10-29 13:35:22 UTC  

being uncertain about it because you're aware of not knowing enough, that's great
being skeptical of proposed solutions/responses, that's great
being skeptical of proven scientific consensus is suspicious af, and a likely sign of either conspiracy nonsense (Jasse) or paid propaganda (Prager)

2018-10-29 13:36:17 UTC  
2018-10-29 13:36:45 UTC  

what conspiracys i have said so far?
i just gave bunch of really basic data

2018-10-29 13:37:33 UTC  

My point is that things can only be taken out of scientific scepticism when they are literally scientific fact, and climate change is something that we simply dont have enough data on to understand what is going on and therefore as a science will always need to be under scientific scepticism

2018-10-29 13:38:32 UTC  

this video addresses what you said, i think, Brakey
how climate advocacy has been coopted by radicals on the left

2018-10-29 13:38:41 UTC  

and how climate denial has become a right-wing staple

2018-10-29 13:38:53 UTC  

sorry, bad connection

2018-10-29 13:38:55 UTC  

Treating these things as fact is unscientific, since we cannot run an experiment multiple times, pumping CO2 into the Earths atmosphere and observing what happens

2018-10-29 13:39:25 UTC  

climate is changing, and aways will. but debate is over how much of it man made.

2018-10-29 13:39:54 UTC  

we absolutely have enough data on climate change
geologists can gather data on climate throughout Earth's history