Message from @pratel

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2018-11-01 20:45:06 UTC  

Of all the theories as to what happened, a false flag seems the least plausible.

2018-11-01 20:45:15 UTC  

That's completely untrue and you know it.

2018-11-01 20:45:26 UTC  

But there's been so much violence and so much of it is *not* a false flag.

2018-11-01 20:45:36 UTC  

Not an argument.

2018-11-01 20:45:57 UTC  

Yes, there has been actual violence. And there has also been false flags.

2018-11-01 20:46:12 UTC  

What do you believe are hallmarks of a false flag operation?

2018-11-01 20:46:14 UTC  

But the really big things, the really damaging things haven't been.

2018-11-01 20:46:20 UTC  

Well, obvious and public for one.

2018-11-01 20:46:21 UTC  

What indicators make you think "Yep, that's a false flag"?

2018-11-01 20:46:36 UTC  

Okay, well this is obvious and being publically proclaimed by him, so that's one.

2018-11-01 20:46:47 UTC  

Turning on the propane and setting up a fire source is pretty not-public and hard to verify.

2018-11-01 20:47:14 UTC  

Yeah, but it's not like someone spray painted "nazi" or something. You could show a picture and no one could deny it happened.

2018-11-01 20:47:47 UTC  

There's also not a clear person to finger. Like, if there were 3 arrows painted somewhere, that would be a pretty obvious person to frame.

2018-11-01 20:48:14 UTC  

Leaving propane on has the possibility of doing real damage or killing someone. But it is not obvious anything happened at all.

2018-11-01 20:48:37 UTC  

And going public is hardly reason to think it's a false flag. What a victim of political violence to do? Stay silent and take it?

2018-11-01 20:48:46 UTC  

So, when there's not an obvious indicator of a perpetrator, you think that a false flag operation is less likely/unlikely?

2018-11-01 20:48:55 UTC  

I'd say less likely, yes.

2018-11-01 20:49:04 UTC  

Along with the risk of real permanent damage.

2018-11-01 20:49:07 UTC  

Or death.

2018-11-01 20:49:44 UTC  

More important is the fact that the nature of the attack doesn't leave any indications that an attack took place.

2018-11-01 20:49:52 UTC  

It was either destruction or nothing at all.

2018-11-01 20:50:05 UTC  

Or being found and reported.

2018-11-01 20:50:30 UTC  

Yeah, but that's the other thing, it's a big risk to assume the neighbor would find and report it.

2018-11-01 20:50:53 UTC  

A VERY big risk. It means there had to be enough gas to where something *could have* happened before it got called in.

2018-11-01 20:51:13 UTC  

*And* neither Torba nor his parents called it in.

2018-11-01 20:52:20 UTC  

If he just wanted sympathy, there's far less risky things to try.

2018-11-01 20:52:49 UTC  

Remember, had the propane combusted, people could have died and there would have been major property damage.

2018-11-01 20:53:17 UTC  

The property damage enough is a good reason to think this isn't just a ploy.

2018-11-01 20:57:20 UTC  

Jordan Peterson holding a bit less back and telling the woman how it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZYQpge1W5s

2018-11-01 20:57:38 UTC  

Sometimes you have to be angry and bash people.

2018-11-01 20:57:44 UTC  

And slap facts around them.

2018-11-01 20:59:31 UTC  

Oh my god, you have to be a cunt to not think about what Peterson says...

2018-11-01 21:40:04 UTC  
2018-11-01 21:40:34 UTC  

War is unavoidable now

2018-11-01 21:44:49 UTC  

War? No, the caravan would have to fight under the flag of a nation for that.

2018-11-01 21:44:55 UTC  

This is simply domestic peacekeeping.

2018-11-01 21:50:03 UTC  

But the left will see it as a massacre and boom Civil War 2.0

2018-11-01 21:50:39 UTC  

There's a decent amount of people in the country willing to mob and riot for the deaths of others.

2018-11-01 21:50:50 UTC  

I think the amount of people willing to get shot for the same is much lower.

2018-11-01 21:51:08 UTC  

```War is unavoidable now```
War is unavoidable because idiots like Maxine Waters and Hillary Clinton ask for uncivility and that other dude to kick them.
And the Fearmongering of the Media. THAT are the reasons for war.

2018-11-01 21:51:18 UTC  

Everyone has a tipping point