Force currently has a problem: its slow to react

Correct--but in this situation no scheme has a satisfactory solution

correct

I don't think that's the situation healthcare intervention proponents seek to address

i don't think there is a solution really.

I'm not convinced it even matters to them if it makes it worse (it's a weird utilitarian tradeoff between steady-state improvement and worse exceptional situations)

the intervention proponents don;t take choice into account

lets go back to the force issues. we have 20, 10, 100, 0. Guy 0 has 0 because of choice. And his choices keep him at zero.

so you take 10%, 18, 10, 90...but guy 0 stays at 0 because all those resources he wastes

so all that happens is 18 and 90 keep having stuff taken from them

while guy 0 has no incentive to not be at 0, because when he needs resources, they are given from other people

Sure, but they also get more over time

So it turns into this flow game instead, which is more complicated

that assumes guy 0 is not throwing away faster than everyone else regains resources

and you HAVE to assume that for force not to be an issue.

I think the technocratic mentality wouldn't be fazed by this, though

Though, TBH

This might persuade some adherents

A compassionate technocrat would say that we would devise solutions to these problems as they appear

now, with choice, if the issue of 0 guy is his own problem, and not something nature forced on him, everyone else can say "fuck you pal" then either he dies of his own choice, or wises the fuck up.

If you say the state i too sluggish, that's because we need a more robust and responsive state!

if it IS something he didn't choose, something nature forced on him. force will keep pulling away from everyone above 10, untill no one is above 10, and 0 guy dies anyway.

force only works so long as everyone else keeps gaining faster than guy 0 keeps draining

Unless it doesn't drain fast enough for that

That's kinda an empirical question

oh yeah? how often does the economy crash?

And honestly, modern economies are so productive that it's hard to imagine that happening given fixed prices

who fixes the price?

Part of the trouble, though, is that all of these solutions affect the price over time, and likely not in a positive direction

All these increase demand without increasing supply

currently my alcohol is fixed in CT. so much so Trader Joes can;t sell their 2 dollar wine. the price fix forces it to be like 9 bucks.

Has anyone proposed fixing the price of health stuffs?

but you didn't asnwer, how often does the economy decline?

In the real world?

yes

how many economic increases keep increasing?

and are not met, eventually, with a crash of near equal proportion

In actuality, most if not all of them

The recent crashes were bad, but not _that_ bad

not that bad because our standard of living goes up all the time regardless

tech keeps bringing costs down but thats not the problem we are trying to solve is it?