Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-02 07:18:57 UTC  

anime is not made for the West

2018-09-02 07:19:00 UTC  

Not necessarily, no.

2018-09-02 07:19:02 UTC  

the west just adopts it

2018-09-02 07:19:26 UTC  

If we’re talking about a particular thing in a region, we are talking about that particular thing in that region.

2018-09-02 07:19:34 UTC  

no anime company makes anime for anything but Japan itself, if it is popular in the west that is just a bonus to them

2018-09-02 07:20:09 UTC  

You didn't even specify a region

2018-09-02 07:20:11 UTC  

Anime was extremely small and niche in the West for the longest time. It only became widely popular in the late 1980’s with stuff like Sailor Moon and, eventually, Dragon Ball Z.

2018-09-02 07:20:23 UTC  

It was niche in japan too

2018-09-02 07:21:00 UTC  

It disnt take off untill like 2000s

2018-09-02 07:21:29 UTC  

When all that moe and kawaii bullshit infected it

2018-09-02 07:22:03 UTC  

anime has been a big thing in Japan for a long while, long before 2000s--unless you are referring to 2000s as when it really boomed in the west, in which case carry on I can't comment on that

2018-09-02 07:22:09 UTC  

However, what prevented it from going down the same route as furries or DND or other types of “nerd culture” was the fact it didn’t receive as much early criticism here in the West, which probably had to do largely with the dubs basically altering the original material heavily for Western audiences and the fact most of the content that became widely popular in the West were relatively benign.

2018-09-02 07:22:40 UTC  

It wasnt that big in japan until recently either

2018-09-02 07:22:50 UTC  

no, that's not correct

2018-09-02 07:23:01 UTC  

In the 2000s companies started using anime to market

2018-09-02 07:23:08 UTC  

That didnt happen before

2018-09-02 07:23:12 UTC  

yea but it was still big

2018-09-02 07:23:34 UTC  

look at Evangelion, for example, it was and *is* huge in Japan, and that is before 2000

2018-09-02 07:23:35 UTC  

But there was a burst in japan to go along with the one in the west

2018-09-02 07:23:40 UTC  

Not in the West, no. It became extremely big starting in the late 1980’s.

2018-09-02 07:23:50 UTC  

It was likely the internet that helped

2018-09-02 07:23:53 UTC  

yes, it got a boost, but it was still sizable

2018-09-02 07:23:59 UTC  

before said boost

2018-09-02 07:24:13 UTC  

Pre-1989?

2018-09-02 07:24:19 UTC  

No, it was very small.

2018-09-02 07:24:55 UTC  

Most media of the 1980’s was dominated by American cartoon shows such as Thundercats or He-Man.

2018-09-02 07:25:24 UTC  

When Furry get their media out and its not degenerate they might not get made fun of

2018-09-02 07:25:25 UTC  

idk about that, Ehzek, Japanese people even now aren't as keen on the Internet and personal computers as the west, I don't think the internet is a (big) reason for Japan's increase in interest in anime

2018-09-02 07:26:02 UTC  

Maybe

2018-09-02 07:26:23 UTC  

But there werent too many large anime prior to 2000

2018-09-02 07:26:26 UTC  

Good thing I have Ehzek blocked.

2018-09-02 07:26:42 UTC  

yea but that is also because anime got a late start

2018-09-02 07:26:49 UTC  

Like there are more out this year than almost everything before 2000

2018-09-02 07:27:10 UTC  

it is exponentially increasing yes

2018-09-02 07:27:10 UTC  

That late start was because it was quite niche.

2018-09-02 07:27:36 UTC  

Then when the big 3 took off it exploded everywhere hard

2018-09-02 07:27:51 UTC  

no the late start is because it took until friggin' WW2-times imperial Japan to start making anime

2018-09-02 07:27:54 UTC  

It wasn’t until Sailor Moon came out and you had the 4-Kids dubs of animes that it became ridiculously popular.

2018-09-02 07:28:07 UTC  

Naruto Bleach and One Piece made anime what it is now

2018-09-02 07:28:13 UTC  

As in the West.

2018-09-02 07:28:25 UTC  

DbZ Eva and Gundam laid the ground work