Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-08 07:16:38 UTC  

Gud Times

2018-09-08 07:16:50 UTC  

We can if they had those standards back then

2018-09-08 07:16:56 UTC  

Which they did

2018-09-08 07:17:22 UTC  

No, it isn’t because Spain and France continued to practice slavery *in their colonies* into the 1870’s and 1880’s.

2018-09-08 07:17:30 UTC  

Meaning that they were still practicing slavery.

2018-09-08 07:17:38 UTC  

Just this loud fucking group of southerners behind the damn times

2018-09-08 07:17:41 UTC  

The institution that determined morality for an entire continent still exists today and has the exact same standards for morality now, we know this because we have access to their documents

2018-09-08 07:17:49 UTC  

Colonies aren't countries

2018-09-08 07:18:07 UTC  

Colonies are under the control and dominion of a country.

2018-09-08 07:18:15 UTC  

Except they arent

2018-09-08 07:18:25 UTC  

Not like the actual country

2018-09-08 07:18:36 UTC  

Hence why we won our revolution

2018-09-08 07:18:44 UTC  

Meaning that they should be subject to the same laws as the home country, but apparently not in the case of France and Spain.

2018-09-08 07:18:46 UTC  

British America had their own legislatures and army before 1775

2018-09-08 07:18:49 UTC  

If we were Irish...

2018-09-08 07:18:49 UTC  

Which is my point.

2018-09-08 07:19:27 UTC  

They allowed for slavery to continue up until recently in their colonies.

2018-09-08 07:19:40 UTC  

Allowed=/=couldnt prevent

2018-09-08 07:19:51 UTC  

Why? Because they only had exceptions to the rule rather than believing slavery was outright amoral.

2018-09-08 07:20:17 UTC  

They only believed enslaving fellow countrymen was illegal, but not enslaving others.

2018-09-08 07:20:18 UTC  

No because the colonies werent listening

2018-09-08 07:20:39 UTC  

James Oglethorpe founded Georgia with an explicit ban on slavery, saying "occasion the misery of thousands in Africa"

2018-09-08 07:20:40 UTC  

France abolished it in 1848 btw

2018-09-08 07:20:49 UTC  

Including colonies

2018-09-08 07:20:54 UTC  

Hell, one of the biggest justifications for slavery was as a “right of passage” for the “inferior” groups in order for them to become “proper westerners.”

2018-09-08 07:21:03 UTC  

Uh no

2018-09-08 07:21:08 UTC  

Lol

2018-09-08 07:21:13 UTC  

Georgia was a Penal colony.

2018-09-08 07:21:16 UTC  

Its retarded

2018-09-08 07:21:36 UTC  

According to the slaveowners, they were to be slaves for life because they were inferior and thus happier as slaves than free people

2018-09-08 07:21:45 UTC  

They literally sent people over there in a form of debt slavery in order to work for their freedom.

2018-09-08 07:22:01 UTC  

You know? “Indentured Servitude”

2018-09-08 07:22:11 UTC  

Penal. The root of the words penalize, penalty etc

2018-09-08 07:22:24 UTC  

Related to punish, as in punishment for a crime

2018-09-08 07:22:27 UTC  

And, according to people up north, Blacks were simply inferior all around.

2018-09-08 07:22:43 UTC  

Because, Unironically, people have different views than they do today.

2018-09-08 07:23:12 UTC  

Thus judging them to the same standard as we judge others today is fucking moronic.

2018-09-08 07:23:12 UTC  

Indentured servitude does not mean you just go capture some people at the local jungle and force them to be your indentured servants

2018-09-08 07:23:12 UTC  

South were inferior all around

2018-09-08 07:23:36 UTC  

Hence barbaric practices

2018-09-08 07:23:45 UTC  

Indentured servants were paying off debts they chose to accrue, including passage to the new world