Message from @Tralfaz

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2018-05-24 19:13:23 UTC  

Well you eithet choose science and god or ignorance and god

2018-05-24 19:13:51 UTC  

I’m a big fan of Kent Hovind. He’s got some wonderful explanations of how science and young earth are in perfect unison

2018-05-24 19:13:53 UTC  

You can believe in 4.5 billion year old earth and be a devout christian

2018-05-24 19:14:08 UTC  

Kent Hovind’s theology though I disagree with

2018-05-24 19:14:11 UTC  

@Tralfaz what about the dinosaur fossils

2018-05-24 19:14:20 UTC  

And the archeology

2018-05-24 19:14:23 UTC  

Everything can exist in perfect union

2018-05-24 19:14:25 UTC  

A worldwide flood explains it

2018-05-24 19:14:33 UTC  

Was that all create

2018-05-24 19:14:45 UTC  

Why didnt noah take the dinos

2018-05-24 19:14:56 UTC  

We aren’t given that information

2018-05-24 19:15:04 UTC  

Also it takes ages for fossil fuels to be made

2018-05-24 19:15:11 UTC  

No it doesnt

2018-05-24 19:15:13 UTC  

Did god make that too

2018-05-24 19:15:32 UTC  

Fossil fuel = pressure + time

2018-05-24 19:15:43 UTC  

We can create oil right now but it takes extreme pressure. So much so that only a worldwide flood could do it in a short amount of time.

2018-05-24 19:17:02 UTC  
2018-05-24 19:17:15 UTC  

Naturally

2018-05-24 19:17:27 UTC  

Almost anything CAN be produced artificially

2018-05-24 19:17:32 UTC  

Kent does a wonderful job of explaining. Much better than me that’s for sure

2018-05-24 19:18:31 UTC  

That article doesn’t seem to factor in the possibility of a global flood

2018-05-24 19:20:27 UTC  

I could be wrong though. I’m at work. Cant read through all the way

2018-05-24 19:20:42 UTC  

No matter how close one thinks they are to understanding life, and the universe around them, there is a limitless flow of more to learn. There is an equal and opposite to everything, and both everything and nothing can exist in perfect unity

2018-05-24 19:21:19 UTC  

True, but what we can know is what the Bible tells us. God’s word is truth.

2018-05-24 19:21:50 UTC  

If the bible said the world was flat would you accept it

2018-05-24 19:22:02 UTC  

God's word can be truth and not at the same time

2018-05-24 19:22:09 UTC  

It's not an issue

2018-05-24 19:22:11 UTC  

Depends. What’s the context?

2018-05-24 19:23:24 UTC  

Sorry guys I love this stuff and you both are great to chat with but I gotta go. Can’t stay on too long while at work.

2018-05-24 19:23:33 UTC  

No problem

2018-05-24 19:23:48 UTC  

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2018-05-24 19:24:01 UTC  

ew wtf lol

2018-05-24 19:30:15 UTC  

my priest always encourged us to listen to science, ie the big bang & the earth's age. Said theres nothing wrong about following science if you believe it was the Lord's doing. I never saw why I couldnt believe the earth was as old as its been shown to be, I just know I believe God was the one in charge of the magnificence that is the universe

2018-05-24 19:31:01 UTC  

^

2018-05-24 19:32:55 UTC  

Here’s my issue. If evolution happened. Then Adam and Eve’s sin was meaningless. Eating of the tree brought death into the world. Evolution requires death to work.

2018-05-24 19:33:36 UTC  

There would have been millions of years of death before Adam and Eve

2018-05-24 19:34:26 UTC  

thats where we differ I suppose, I dont think that negates anything. I just think in his infinite wisdom the Lord instituted something like evolution that helped us adapt to an every changing world. But I definitley see your conflict. I just try not to bother myself which such things I could not hope to understand until Im standing at the pearly gates

2018-05-24 19:34:42 UTC  

But that’s also me as a dispensationalist using a literal hermeneutical interpretation

2018-05-24 19:35:34 UTC  

huh Ive never heard of such a thing, thanks for the research point

2018-05-24 19:38:20 UTC  

People like Moody, Darby, David Jeremiah, Scofield, Charles Ryrie are dispensationalists