agree

IDC about Islam in their countries

but they should fuck off from EU

but when u think about the political ramifications of Turks in Germany

how they protested against german measures to deny them voting booths for Turkish election

its quite interesting

it just means that you will never remove Turkey from Turks and that the interests of Turkey will always come first to this foreign entity in your country

no matter how many times they say that they addopted western values

It's interesting how much are Turks nationalist. Their ruler is stupid dictator and their country is a shithole. But with good army

that's the thing, the country being a shithole is irrelevant

as for the dictator I think he's anything but stupid

take the example of the failed coup that happened

that was really bad attempt

regardless

Well, I hate Erdogan. I hope Turks will vote someone else

he used it to remove his enemies from power

but not a leftist

does Turkey has candidate that is right wing non-islamic?

hope they elect a leftist

remember that Turkey is not your friend

You don't have to tell me that

even though they are from Nato

I don't trust them, I don't like them

I remember the times when ottomans tried to conquer Europe

Now they are doing in a way EU leaders even pavement their way to conquer us

ataturk changed turkey, they are not the ottoman empire from before

but I'll say this, Islamic right and Christian right can not compare

and I would much rather live in a Christian right country then an Islamic one

same

they say Islam is ultra conservative. But lot of "ultra conservative" Christians hate Islam

its an opposing world view the fact that they are both conservative means nothing

you have to have something to conserve if u want to be a conservative. I have no interest in conserving Islam

me neither

I just sometimes hear this retarded argument from leftist. Like "You are conservative man" How can you hate Muslims, who are even more conservative than you?

because they like to view things from a perspective of state policy, to them policies of Islam are conservative one. They don't seek to perserve Christianity but Islamic values and customs.

so what exactly is there for a Christian conservative

they could say that Islamic morality is enforced by state and that's something good and how Christians should be like and I would agree but that doesn't mean that Islamic morality is better than a Christian one

for example how they allow for inbreding and child marriadges

absolutely disgusting if u ask me

Well, Islam is very conservative

they view it as word of God even thought it's old hateful shitty book