After WWII, we gave West Germany civilization. They said "Okay, that's fine." East Germany got communism. They escaped West as often as they could for several decades

There was plenty of people who believed Hitler was the good guy even a decade later

Denazification is what it took

Sure many in America too

Hardly makes them nazis just dogs

there is also the matter of un-reconstructed Southerners, of which there are still plenty today

The middle east needs the same. Deislamification. The difference is that we're talking over 70%, not just 7%

Define "un-reconstructed southerners"

hatred for the North, an unwillingness to recognize federal authority

That's a tiny minority

Very tiny

Dangerous in specific incidents only

I'd wager the percentage was higher immediately after the war, but the point stands

in any case, the demoralizing effect of Sherman's army is another example

they marched through the South with just about nothing to stand in their way after Chattanooga

The South hated it, and very soon, they just wanted things to go back to "normal"

Civilization

which Lincoln famously promised

Sherman's march is iffy for me. In total war it is the right thing to do. But this wasn't a fight between a foreign invader this was fighting your own brothers you will eventually reintegrate

But let's say Sherman's army marched through the South conquering muzzies instead of Confederates

You think the result would have been the same, even after official end of hostilities?

No, because Muzzies would be still trying to gut every northerner because they are an "Evil" christian nation. When fighting muzzies we are fighting literal hate. And that is why they can not be reasoned with

you have to ask yourself then, what do they want? I stand by my Westerners-want-civilization argument, whereas peoples such as the muzzies (which are all cut from similar cloths) seem to behave in a tribal way such that they just want to conquer and destroy and rule

except for the occasional educated man, integration is not something they care for, and they will simply always opt to take power and destroy and rule when given any sort of opening

So we should just "install" a new government to be rules by "pro-west" leaders. That will more than likely turn on us in the next few decades and force us to wasted more American lives to resecure the land just to install another leader... The CIA approves

Can poland into fires?

No. That will never work in the established barbarism areas. But the initial discussion wasn't about barbarians like the Afghans. It was about the best chance at conquering the places more malleable to change (such as Iraq)

The alternative is to establish a permanent presence

and fuck that

More voter fraud by the real russian bots

Met my first Antifa traveling to Toronto from Kenora (small town about 5 hours north of me)

How'd that go m8

It started civil, didn't end that way. Telling me how the whole country is going to hell but Toronto and that he feels like he's not wanted. Tried to tell him about how bad the murders are there and he started getting angry. asking if I believed the capitalist propaganda. I laughed. He's screamed F you

My exact words were. You hear about all the murders down there eh? As bad as New York

His' car had a Antifa thing hanging from the rear view mirror

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Most ordinary people in the south didn't want war. Shit even most aristocrats like Lee didn't want war.

Sadly people still fail to see the difference. People do not go to war. Governments and ideas go to war. People just die.