Message from @Ehzek

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2018-09-03 06:29:21 UTC  

South were corrupt too

2018-09-03 06:29:27 UTC  

When the majority of sitting members are in the same party as him? Yeah they'll be adamant on a witchhunt lmao

2018-09-03 06:29:43 UTC  

Then why even complain?

2018-09-03 06:29:55 UTC  

Because it's fucking unconstitutional

2018-09-03 06:29:57 UTC  

Like I said this is a moral argument for you

2018-09-03 06:30:07 UTC  

It was decided to be constitutional

2018-09-03 06:30:40 UTC  

Legally

2018-09-03 06:30:41 UTC  

Lincoln had no right to declare war on states or block their trade routes.

2018-09-03 06:31:08 UTC  

Somebody explain to me how the violation of speech and personal freedom is constitutional

2018-09-03 06:31:15 UTC  

He didnt at the time

2018-09-03 06:31:55 UTC  

I don’t want to pile on and make this three on one but Lincoln’s administration was objectively the most harmful and despotic in American history

2018-09-03 06:32:35 UTC  

He wasn’t necessarily an evil man but he was cucked by his evil cabinet members, particularly the secretary of war

2018-09-03 06:32:49 UTC  

I didnt say it wasnt

2018-09-03 06:33:06 UTC  

I said that in the end they won and upheld everything

2018-09-03 06:33:44 UTC  

But you think that makes it ok

2018-09-03 06:33:53 UTC  

Thats a moral question

2018-09-03 06:33:55 UTC  

Because they were in power and could do so, doesn’t make it constitutional.

2018-09-03 06:33:59 UTC  

Legally they did

2018-09-03 06:34:11 UTC  

There is absolutely no legal recourse

2018-09-03 06:34:17 UTC  

That doesn't mean it can't be answered lol

2018-09-03 06:34:46 UTC  

No it doesnt

2018-09-03 06:35:14 UTC  

But it makes bitching about it worthless

2018-09-03 06:36:20 UTC  

By that logic we can never bitch about the mass genocides under communism or the genocide in south africa

2018-09-03 06:36:24 UTC  

I'll say it again, Roosevelt arrested and relocated Japanese for their race, which is unconstitutional. By your logic, not morality, it's ok.

2018-09-03 06:36:46 UTC  

Legally

2018-09-03 06:36:59 UTC  

False equivalence

2018-09-03 06:37:24 UTC  

I can't equate laws that violate rights to laws that violate rights?

2018-09-03 06:37:41 UTC  

Not you jack

2018-09-03 06:38:10 UTC  

I think your argument is that history is written by the victor and it’s impossible to change the past, and I agree.

2018-09-03 06:38:19 UTC  

Basically

2018-09-03 06:38:29 UTC  

I just don’t understand such adamant opposition to talking about the North’s crimes so we never have such a breach of the constitution again

2018-09-03 06:39:13 UTC  

Because Boots eqates that to Republicans or Yankees now being evil

2018-09-03 06:39:21 UTC  

Its a silly argument

2018-09-03 06:39:38 UTC  

Especially when Obama was the last person to do it

2018-09-03 06:39:43 UTC  

We can't learn from our mistakes because Abe and the North were perfect and the South were just hicks

2018-09-03 06:39:59 UTC  

I didnt say that

2018-09-03 06:40:16 UTC  

I said then doesnt affect now

2018-09-03 06:40:28 UTC  

Unless Trump is doing it and you are protesting that

2018-09-03 06:40:34 UTC  

You're whole point regarding Abe's actions were that what he did was constitutional

2018-09-03 06:40:56 UTC  

Well Obama did it too so...

2018-09-03 06:41:08 UTC  

Yeah it made it constitutional