Message from @Grenade123

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2019-02-15 14:15:52 UTC  

Many states, including New York, are atrocious at measuring efficiency and as pew notes in that study, poorly structured tax incentives can have serious detrimental impacts

2019-02-15 14:20:21 UTC  

Christ, look at what Foxconn did in Wisconsin

2019-02-15 14:24:33 UTC  

i mean, what else is new. Legislators throw shit left and right. You'll have someone compete make a good deal, then have his cohort turn around and produce a deal like foxconn. But this also means that each case needs to be observed on a case by case basis. That said, as Tim pointed out and others point out, lowering taxes across the board is probably more effective.

2019-02-15 14:25:32 UTC  

most of what i read in that pew article, and referenced the previous articles, is that its more a problem with implementation than the idea itself.

2019-02-15 14:26:10 UTC  

That last statement of yours belies the problem

2019-02-15 14:26:21 UTC  

You could say the same thing about communism

2019-02-15 14:26:57 UTC  

Theory is irrelevant if it can't be implemented correctly

2019-02-15 14:27:16 UTC  

except communism isn't even good on paper

2019-02-15 14:27:31 UTC  

nor socialism

2019-02-15 14:27:43 UTC  

That's just an opinion though

2019-02-15 14:28:03 UTC  

I value ideas based on their ability to get claimed results

2019-02-15 14:28:41 UTC  

So far, the evidence for tax incentives is that there is a lot of devil in the details

2019-02-15 14:29:11 UTC  

And its far from reasonable to simply believe untested assertions about what they will do

2019-02-15 14:29:35 UTC  

Particularly when many states go out of their way to avoid studying them in the first place

2019-02-15 14:29:53 UTC  

the state goes out of its way to avoid studying a lot of stuff

2019-02-15 14:30:32 UTC  

Which, in my view, is indicative the state shouldn't be doing it then

2019-02-15 14:30:34 UTC  

immigration status, gun crime, drug use

2019-02-15 14:31:01 UTC  

It's not reality based decision making

2019-02-15 14:32:45 UTC  

You have a bunch of unqualified people make calls in place of experts and lie for a living.

2019-02-15 14:33:15 UTC  

if you have raised taxes so much that businesses are actively leaving your state, then you don't really have a choice but to lower them.

2019-02-15 14:33:25 UTC  

but lowering them won't get you re-elected

2019-02-15 14:33:46 UTC  

so, you need to make incentives for each new company you want to bring in.

2019-02-15 14:39:56 UTC  

Dear god, look what happened in Kansas with Brownback's tax cuts. I think you may be a little caught up in your ideological lens

2019-02-15 14:40:53 UTC  

Taxes tend to be marginal in measuring IRRs for new business expansion

2019-02-15 14:41:13 UTC  

I'm just saying

2019-02-15 14:41:52 UTC  

It isn't good practice to just assume that when a government offers tax incentives to attract business

2019-02-15 14:42:01 UTC  

It's going to work as intended

2019-02-15 14:42:08 UTC  

And the evidence backs that up

2019-02-15 14:43:22 UTC  

Support your argument

2019-02-15 14:57:59 UTC  

“Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia”
By Ken Dilanian on NBC News

After two years, 200 interviews and sifting through 300,000 documents, the bipartisan Senate Intelligence committee has discovered no incriminating evidence of conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia.


Original link
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-has-uncovered-no-direct-evidence-conspiracy-between-trump-campaign-n970536

Archive link
http://archive.today/MhuYx

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2019-02-15 14:59:21 UTC  

Russia was fake news

2019-02-15 14:59:23 UTC  

😅

2019-02-15 15:02:12 UTC  

Whomp whomp

2019-02-15 15:20:47 UTC  

Polygon: Hearts of Iron DLC missions let players play as the Confederacy and more.
https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/14/18224986/hearts-of-iron-4-dlc-man-the-guns-confederacy

2019-02-15 15:29:55 UTC  

Omg @byathy the regressive video games journalists are going to lose their minds over being able to play the Confederacy

2019-02-15 15:33:36 UTC  

Yeah I realized

2019-02-15 15:33:41 UTC  

I have hoi4

2019-02-15 15:33:45 UTC  

Its an good game

2019-02-15 15:33:56 UTC  

But I think eu4 is better