Message from @Amadeus

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2019-01-28 10:04:43 UTC  

he worked for, i think it was his uncle anyway, and made a deal with him

2019-01-28 10:04:45 UTC  

Jacob was renamed Israel?

2019-01-28 10:05:03 UTC  

if he worked a number of years for him on his land, he would give rachel (his beautiful daughter) up for marriage

2019-01-28 10:05:03 UTC  

Was Israel founded by this time

2019-01-28 10:05:10 UTC  

no, Israel wasn't a country at this time

2019-01-28 10:05:15 UTC  

in fact, the 12 children of Jacob

2019-01-28 10:05:21 UTC  

eventually become the

2019-01-28 10:05:24 UTC  

12 Tribes of Israel

2019-01-28 10:05:30 UTC  

I thought...

2019-01-28 10:05:57 UTC  

I need to go back and read. I thought it was Abraham that had 12 sons.

2019-01-28 10:05:58 UTC  

anyway, when the years were up and he was about ot marry rachel, the uncle (or whoever it is) put his ugly daughter in a veil and had her married off instead

2019-01-28 10:06:22 UTC  

so basically he pulled one over on Jacob, which is very obvious that Jacob's sins are coming back to bite him

2019-01-28 10:06:36 UTC  

Jacob worked a number of more years and finally got to marry rachel, though

2019-01-28 10:06:40 UTC  

But...

2019-01-28 10:06:42 UTC  

thus he was stuck with the ugly wife

2019-01-28 10:06:45 UTC  

but also had rachel

2019-01-28 10:06:51 UTC  

no, Abraham had Isaac

2019-01-28 10:06:59 UTC  

Wouldn't you lift the veil to see who you're marrying?

2019-01-28 10:07:02 UTC  

That's retarded

2019-01-28 10:07:08 UTC  

Marrying someone you don't knowm

2019-01-28 10:07:13 UTC  

and then God said ot sacrifice Isaac, and he abided, and before the sacrifice occurred, God stopped him (it was a test of faith)

2019-01-28 10:07:17 UTC  

Even if it is your cousin.

2019-01-28 10:07:40 UTC  

well ceremonially you're not suppose to see the bride before marriage, and it'd probably be very uncustomary to lift the veil

2019-01-28 10:07:42 UTC  

until after marriage

2019-01-28 10:08:09 UTC  

I mean, is that where the tradition came from?

2019-01-28 10:08:16 UTC  

i would assume so

2019-01-28 10:08:20 UTC  

but i am not 100% sure

2019-01-28 10:08:21 UTC  

lol

2019-01-28 10:08:21 UTC  

Surprise you're marrying this person!

2019-01-28 10:08:28 UTC  

also, if i remember right

2019-01-28 10:08:32 UTC  

Scary lmfao

2019-01-28 10:08:35 UTC  

Israel essentially means "Struggles with God"

2019-01-28 10:08:49 UTC  

which is why he was renamed Israel after wrestling with the angel

2019-01-28 10:08:56 UTC  

and probably why some people think the angel was actually God

2019-01-28 10:09:36 UTC  

My name is Jacob, and I struggle with god.

Maybe he put a voice in my mother's head and told her to name me that..

Or I'm some insignificant worm.

2019-01-28 10:09:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/444628704296173569/539386603911643164/800px-024.png

2019-01-28 10:09:52 UTC  

a famous image

2019-01-28 10:09:55 UTC  

depicting the event

2019-01-28 10:10:12 UTC  

who knows lol

2019-01-28 10:10:18 UTC  

jacob means supplanter

2019-01-28 10:10:31 UTC  

which is exactly what he did to his brother