Message from @DefinitlyNotInsane - NL

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2018-11-01 12:49:37 UTC  

You can't tell me that the way to treating people equality is by intentionally focusing on what they are, rather than who they are, and then treat them differently based on what they are, rather than who they are.

2018-11-01 12:50:53 UTC  

i sometimes wonder if these people actually believe what they say and with shit like this is think they really do as they have gotten themselves in a stickey situation where anything you say will be deemed racist so they want gouvernments or companies to dictate then rules for them as then they arent risking offending their coworkers again

2018-11-01 12:50:55 UTC  

that is literally prejudice based on immutable attributes (race, sex, sexual orientation, disability, etc). Which used to be the definition of bigotry, racism or sexism until the left realized this might be a problem

2018-11-01 12:51:18 UTC  

isnt that just discrimination?

2018-11-01 12:51:26 UTC  

all those things combined that is

2018-11-01 12:51:27 UTC  

I mean both your messages were perfectly correct, but I don't see how that contradicts my statement about age.
I'm not saying that younger people are less competent (not even in general or on average), but simply that they tend to hold lower positions within companies and climb up over time.
Now if there's any statistic contradicting that, I'm happy to agree, but I doubt it.

And I'm not saying that people should judge you based on your age either. I'm simply assuming that that is a possible conscious or unconscious bias that could account for some of the statistics.
To generalize that. I am a very individualist person, but we still need to talk about groups when we are looking at statistics, because that's what statistics are .... information about groups of people, not individuals.

2018-11-01 12:51:39 UTC  

its intended to be positive discrimination to the left but yes, it is discrimination

2018-11-01 12:52:19 UTC  

@Lars it doesn't, just saying people shouldn't.

2018-11-01 12:52:31 UTC  

Yes, I'm absolutely with you on that

2018-11-01 12:52:37 UTC  

well its fairly obvious why younger people tend to have lower positions right? because they also tend to have been working for less time or not yet having finished their school

2018-11-01 12:53:20 UTC  

Generally yes and that's why I was using it as an assumption. But I don't think anyone here disagrees, so that's fine 😄

2018-11-01 12:53:35 UTC  

thats why i said no, its not a surprise when someone younger is treated as inexperienced and less skilled than someone older.

2018-11-01 12:53:59 UTC  

its also more likely to be the case usually

2018-11-01 12:54:01 UTC  

Oh, ok, I misunderstood that. Sorry about that

2018-11-01 12:54:05 UTC  

np

2018-11-01 12:54:17 UTC  

I actually have to head off now, just wanted to drop that link and some comments in here

2018-11-01 12:54:27 UTC  

You guys have a great day 😃

2018-11-01 12:54:34 UTC  

i mean, its not often a kid right out of school is gonna be better than a seasoned professional.

2018-11-01 12:54:40 UTC  

you too, later.

2018-11-01 12:54:59 UTC  

this world runs entirely by action and reaction blacks in america are more likely to commit violent crimes so they are more likely to end up in prison, younger people are less likely to have alot of experience so they are less likely to have higher job positions, leftists call everyone rasist so they start fearing the mob will come after them so they want laws that prevent that from happening

2018-11-01 12:55:14 UTC  

aka anti hate speech laws

2018-11-01 12:55:33 UTC  

as then they can say no i didnt break this hate speech law so im not racist even thought instating hate speech laws is against free speech

2018-11-01 12:56:02 UTC  

the left looks as the result, and assumes the cause.

2018-11-01 12:56:14 UTC  

thats is really accurate

2018-11-01 12:56:47 UTC  

worse, they assume "because there could be discrimination, there must be discrimination", removing the agency of everyone in whatever group they happened to be targeting

2018-11-01 12:57:31 UTC  

i mean, the left is the party saying that blacks are not successful **because they are black**

2018-11-01 12:58:04 UTC  

they just blame white people being racist for what they believe to be a fact: black people are not successful

2018-11-01 12:58:20 UTC  

which means they need their white saviors to lift them up.

2018-11-01 12:58:48 UTC  

and the funny(or really depressing) thing is that those assumptions are actually inherently racist

2018-11-01 12:59:18 UTC  

is it surprising?

2018-11-01 12:59:23 UTC  

look at their history

2018-11-01 13:00:48 UTC  

Never said that just noting the irony

2018-11-01 13:01:13 UTC  

they are the party of racism. The difference is they went from trying to kick them out for being (as they believed) worse than whites to feeling guilty so instead they want special rules because they still believe they are worse than whites.

2018-11-01 13:01:33 UTC  

its why Asians don't count, they have always been on par or better than whites.

2018-11-01 13:02:03 UTC  

I see you are an intelectual aswell haha

2018-11-01 13:02:09 UTC  

its why japan and Germany got along well enough during WWII: true equals, if only when separated

2018-11-01 13:02:25 UTC  

Thats pretty accurate

2018-11-01 13:03:14 UTC  

the right has only been racist as a by product of not caring about people more than money. and they still are, at least those who join political parties and stay in those parties

2018-11-01 13:03:45 UTC  

but when you really look at it, they treat everyone equality bad it gets them money

2018-11-01 13:04:44 UTC  

women? they need to be home to buy stuff while their husbands are at work making the stuff so that we get as much back from these men working for us as possible (part of the reason ford started giving his workers the weekend. can't get back the money those annoying workers demanded if they don't have time to spend it)

2018-11-01 13:05:06 UTC  

blacks? hey, it was free labor that someone started doing, why not use it.