Message from @caykoh

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2018-12-05 11:03:02 UTC  

Given accuracy is the valuable factor from news , how should a person create their habits of media consumption to ensure they arrive at accurate reporting?

2018-12-05 11:04:11 UTC  

@caykoh They should refer back to sources and even multiple organization to find consistency between reports

2018-12-05 11:04:44 UTC  

Do their own research pretty much

2018-12-05 11:04:52 UTC  

@caykoh here's my tip. avoid large conglomerates or companies in cases where there's conflict of interest such as RT on Russia or MSM on Trump and immigration. Individual journalists like tim are your best bet

2018-12-05 11:05:01 UTC  

because they bypass the noise

2018-12-05 11:05:32 UTC  

Well when has your media cleared of invalid news

2018-12-05 11:05:41 UTC  

*up

2018-12-05 11:06:47 UTC  

The noise being ?

2018-12-05 11:07:47 UTC  

Even independent news has bias

2018-12-05 11:07:51 UTC  

transactional model of communication @caykoh meaning anything that hampers the message

2018-12-05 11:08:00 UTC  

Also misinformation

2018-12-05 11:08:13 UTC  

which could be multiple disagreeing claims, misinformation or inconsistency, spin, telling what the audience wants to hear

2018-12-05 11:08:17 UTC  

etc

2018-12-05 11:09:08 UTC  

Your statement individual news doesnt do this

2018-12-05 11:09:36 UTC  

generally yes

2018-12-05 11:09:44 UTC  

but they are not immune to bias

2018-12-05 11:10:01 UTC  

an individual rarely has corporate funding behind his stories

2018-12-05 11:10:32 UTC  

They also appeal to a certain group

2018-12-05 11:10:45 UTC  

Both big and small and individual

2018-12-05 11:10:47 UTC  

suppose that i own a newspaper which is sponsored by a bank. It's highly unlikely that after criticizing the banking sector i would receive any more funding

2018-12-05 11:10:52 UTC  

Those are almost all arguements in favor of the messenger determining the trustowrthtness though

2018-12-05 11:11:20 UTC  

Instead of the message

2018-12-05 11:11:25 UTC  

Its directed at determining what news to watch

2018-12-05 11:11:34 UTC  

But I guess

2018-12-05 11:15:31 UTC  

Let's assume the question applies to not current affairs in the news but let's say a research report you are given on maybe, something like, forecasts of a market you invest in, to get detail on predicting that markets safety for your money

2018-12-05 11:17:16 UTC  

Could be right or wrong, the author may have an interest in moving the market with the report for their own profit, does the messenger matter as t all or just the message?

2018-12-05 11:21:28 UTC  

that one gives me a headache

2018-12-05 11:21:47 UTC  

because in theory only the message and its content should matter

2018-12-05 11:22:04 UTC  

I agree

2018-12-05 11:22:07 UTC  

however if there's a clear conflict of interest an independent source is needed

2018-12-05 11:22:10 UTC  

Well if the message doesnt contradict its reason it is right

2018-12-05 11:22:36 UTC  

But the messenger is less credible as a big bias is on his part

2018-12-05 11:22:57 UTC  

Contradiction also includes the results there after

2018-12-05 11:23:27 UTC  

Well even If there is a conflict often interest

2018-12-05 11:25:58 UTC  

If the message asserts only claims that would be accepted anyways, ie. The market will continue to operate based on on currency, and not outlying assertions, then the messenger should not assune reason for me to determines the message accuracy

2018-12-06 13:20:44 UTC  

“ Did someone plant a story tying Paul Manafort to Julian Assange? “ by Alex Finley on Politico

The Guardian posted a debunked story on Manafort visiting Assange in London. It was easily blow out of the water. This article written by a former CIA propaganda officer and current anonymous Deep State mouthpiece for Politico is an attempt to frame that articles fraudulent claims as an attempt by Russia to discredit the journalist that wrote it. Making the hilarious claim that the information came from Russian intelligence without a single shred of evidence. This bit of fake news exhibits the
incestuous relationship between the media and the CIA.
http://archive.today/70Qqu

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2018-12-06 13:51:57 UTC  

Better question: Isn't the argument for banning fake news and harrassing alternative media that the established news organizations don't make mistakes and don't fall for Russian propaganda? This would seem to defeat that argument.

2018-12-06 14:08:01 UTC  

Stop pointing out hypocrisies.

2018-12-06 15:04:15 UTC  

Great point.

2018-12-06 15:53:47 UTC  

it has leaked that putin may have ties to russia

2018-12-06 15:53:52 UTC  

what has this world become