Message from @DanteMenace
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And what am I being blamed for?
@.B Yes. I see this all the time:
People are not really debating on rational facts, but they are debating based on what they THINK others might do with those conclusions.
So people who debate topics like these usually start with the conclusion and will then reject any arguments that they fear might not lead there.
pretty much
But that's the beauty in it:
I am all for MERITOCRACY.
@Undead Mockingbird I agree with that
As a baseline. Have you lived in a non western culture for more than a few years?
@Undead Mockingbird You are relating environmental factors that develop over time and influence genetic makeup as some form of influencer on cultural attitudes. Those I would argue are very distinct from culture itself
most jews are VERY conservative when it's about Israel. But in the west they are very lefty. They are the ones that started with the identity politics. You can "blame" them for that
#NotAllJews
Let us say tomorrow some scientist told me that 99% of the people in my home town are retarded. If I was a collectivist, that would be terrible news, because that is all people might base their decisions about me on.
However, if I am an individualist, I do not have to worry how many people in my town are stupid. My IQ does not change.
Wow, many peoples dad were gassed for being Jewish
nice
Dont see how that isnt a reason to be upset
Hmm?
It's only a reason to be upset if I am a collectivist.
hahaha
Fucking autocorrect
If the society I live in is meritocratic, I just go and take an IQ test to show that I am not in the 99%.
@Undead Mockingbird no you have a reason to be upset.
I will be judged as an indvidual.
you have merit
Even if we found tomorrow that blacks had an IQ of 50, it doesn't change the IQ of Thomas Sowell.
So stop thinking like a collectivist. Stop being upset.
Mentally challenged please @DanteMenace
with a retardation
Lel
@JohnOakman if it makes you feel better retard
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Dante, mate
this is going nowhere
We cant win if you insult people
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I was messing with @JohnOakman
You should watch what Thomas Sowell (or was it Larry Elder??) say about beeing in school.
it's a George Carlin joke @DanteMenace
Personally I am more open to the study of honor dignity and face culture as baseline models for understanding culture. Here race is irrelevant and environmental factors related to politics are the key motivator. None of that simplified collectivist vs individualist argumentation.
https://staffanspersonalityblog.wordpress.com/2014/04/19/honor-dignity-and-face-culture-as-personality-writ-large/
Both are leaining more towads the radical indoctrination with the material (not politics) in school. And treating them harshly.
Huh? Race can still be irrelevant.
@Cody This fight was won in the 30's and the 80's race based thinking has never lead to anything good and will never gain traction in the world again
You guys are not listening.
There is a reason why German culture has cheese and Africans hunt, but that doesn't mean that an African with an IQ of 100 does worse than a German with IQ of 100, if both are born in Germany.