Message from @TheKekscernist

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2019-11-27 00:40:47 UTC  

And I just gave you the best gold nuggets you'll ever find

2019-11-27 00:43:17 UTC  

We fundamentally disagree that unregulated capitalism can be abused and subverted to destroy cultures, even though Antonio Gramsci, godfather of Cultural Marxism, and subsequently the KGB, selected the institutions of capitalism for targeting in order to destroy Western nation states. You talk to me about ignoring history but it seems you're doing the same. We have collectively identified problems wihth our system and recommended changes. I eagerly await your solution, as I understand the value of a multi-pronged approach

2019-11-27 00:44:17 UTC  

All systems are capable of falling victim to the same thing

2019-11-27 00:44:39 UTC  

So fuck it?

2019-11-27 00:45:04 UTC  

Why not craft safeguards into your system of choice

2019-11-27 00:45:24 UTC  

Do what is proven to work and don't worry yourself too much about the flaws.

2019-11-27 00:45:31 UTC  

You need to enjoy life

2019-11-27 00:45:36 UTC  

What is proven to work

2019-11-27 00:45:38 UTC  

It's a gift to us for a reason

2019-11-27 00:45:49 UTC  

Well natsoc does not work

2019-11-27 00:46:05 UTC  

lol We literally don't know if it does

2019-11-27 00:46:09 UTC  

It is antithetical to moral principles on its own

2019-11-27 00:46:29 UTC  

Okay why

2019-11-27 00:46:32 UTC  

Man this is just like "communism will work this time, it only failed because the west interfered"

2019-11-27 00:47:00 UTC  

The seizure of private property and business first of all. And don't tell me every businessman was a criminal or a Jew.

2019-11-27 00:47:17 UTC  

"The Republic will work this time" is your argument. That or "no point in fixing it, screw culture, it has no value"

2019-11-27 00:47:37 UTC  

No, I don't support republics

2019-11-27 00:47:49 UTC  

We literally crafted the shortest-lives system to fail on its own merits

2019-11-27 00:48:06 UTC  

Culture belongs to people and the only way to keep it is to pass it on to your kids and teach them the value of it.

2019-11-27 00:48:19 UTC  

A million individuals is more important than a society

2019-11-27 00:48:28 UTC  

So let's move on to a system that is prove to last. A caste society, or a monarchy

2019-11-27 00:48:35 UTC  

Agreed

2019-11-27 00:48:59 UTC  

This is where I tell you that I unironically support a caste system in this country

2019-11-27 00:49:36 UTC  

The responsibility of the Indo-Aryan upper caste was to ensure that the holy fire is passed down to the plebians

2019-11-27 00:49:46 UTC  

It worked damn well

2019-11-27 00:50:00 UTC  

And is fully compatible with the republic

2019-11-27 00:50:02 UTC  

In my case I never give myself an illusion that I am going to stop all crime or even make a dent in the crime rate. I just concern myself with one person at a time because the individual has value and all life is precious. It's not "people" I worry about, it's "this person, that person, and the other person" etc.

2019-11-27 00:50:27 UTC  

Republic is flawed. Of course all systems are, but a republic more so.

2019-11-27 00:50:45 UTC  

And that's fine. You do you. I naturally focus on the bigger picture

2019-11-27 00:50:59 UTC  

A presidential election in the US is basically giving a nuclear arsenal to the most popular kid in school

2019-11-27 00:51:06 UTC  

It is an arms deal basically

2019-11-27 00:51:22 UTC  

In any case, a caste system requires that the upper caste dictate what is morally acceptable for a society

2019-11-27 00:51:31 UTC  

If you will give me gibmedats. Free health insurance, free welfare and food stamps etc, I'll give you 3000 nuclear missiles

2019-11-27 00:51:42 UTC  

So my question becomes

2019-11-27 00:52:02 UTC  

Why is it okay for the upper caste to do it, but not the guvmint

2019-11-27 00:52:11 UTC  

Why is it okay for a monarch

2019-11-27 00:52:34 UTC  

You put faith in monarchy

2019-11-27 00:53:49 UTC  

I could make the exact same arguments against a monarchy that you make against natsoc, except I would have historical precedent to back me up other than "other nations defeated the monarchy"

2019-11-27 00:54:34 UTC  

Outside influences just like with natsoc

2019-11-27 00:54:40 UTC  

The fallibility of man

2019-11-27 00:54:52 UTC  

But we had a system that lasted a thousand years