Message from @TheKekscernist

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2019-11-27 00:46:09 UTC  

It is antithetical to moral principles on its own

2019-11-27 00:46:29 UTC  

Okay why

2019-11-27 00:46:32 UTC  

Man this is just like "communism will work this time, it only failed because the west interfered"

2019-11-27 00:47:00 UTC  

The seizure of private property and business first of all. And don't tell me every businessman was a criminal or a Jew.

2019-11-27 00:47:17 UTC  

"The Republic will work this time" is your argument. That or "no point in fixing it, screw culture, it has no value"

2019-11-27 00:47:37 UTC  

No, I don't support republics

2019-11-27 00:47:49 UTC  

We literally crafted the shortest-lives system to fail on its own merits

2019-11-27 00:48:06 UTC  

Culture belongs to people and the only way to keep it is to pass it on to your kids and teach them the value of it.

2019-11-27 00:48:19 UTC  

A million individuals is more important than a society

2019-11-27 00:48:28 UTC  

So let's move on to a system that is prove to last. A caste society, or a monarchy

2019-11-27 00:48:35 UTC  

Agreed

2019-11-27 00:48:59 UTC  

This is where I tell you that I unironically support a caste system in this country

2019-11-27 00:49:36 UTC  

The responsibility of the Indo-Aryan upper caste was to ensure that the holy fire is passed down to the plebians

2019-11-27 00:49:46 UTC  

It worked damn well

2019-11-27 00:50:00 UTC  

And is fully compatible with the republic

2019-11-27 00:50:02 UTC  

In my case I never give myself an illusion that I am going to stop all crime or even make a dent in the crime rate. I just concern myself with one person at a time because the individual has value and all life is precious. It's not "people" I worry about, it's "this person, that person, and the other person" etc.

2019-11-27 00:50:27 UTC  

Republic is flawed. Of course all systems are, but a republic more so.

2019-11-27 00:50:45 UTC  

And that's fine. You do you. I naturally focus on the bigger picture

2019-11-27 00:50:59 UTC  

A presidential election in the US is basically giving a nuclear arsenal to the most popular kid in school

2019-11-27 00:51:06 UTC  

It is an arms deal basically

2019-11-27 00:51:22 UTC  

In any case, a caste system requires that the upper caste dictate what is morally acceptable for a society

2019-11-27 00:51:31 UTC  

If you will give me gibmedats. Free health insurance, free welfare and food stamps etc, I'll give you 3000 nuclear missiles

2019-11-27 00:51:42 UTC  

So my question becomes

2019-11-27 00:52:02 UTC  

Why is it okay for the upper caste to do it, but not the guvmint

2019-11-27 00:52:11 UTC  

Why is it okay for a monarch

2019-11-27 00:52:34 UTC  

You put faith in monarchy

2019-11-27 00:53:49 UTC  

I could make the exact same arguments against a monarchy that you make against natsoc, except I would have historical precedent to back me up other than "other nations defeated the monarchy"

2019-11-27 00:54:34 UTC  

Outside influences just like with natsoc

2019-11-27 00:54:40 UTC  

The fallibility of man

2019-11-27 00:54:52 UTC  

But we had a system that lasted a thousand years

2019-11-27 00:55:00 UTC  

For the record I am not full natsoc. In my studies I've long since decided that the caste system will preserve as much intent of the founders as possible

2019-11-27 00:55:15 UTC  

But they share qualities

2019-11-27 00:55:21 UTC  

Lower taxes than we have today. More days off from work. Less overseas wars.

2019-11-27 00:55:53 UTC  

Especially regulation where it is needed without slavish dedication to preserving the subversive desires of the plebians

2019-11-27 00:56:05 UTC  

Imagine if you could only be drafted for 40 days a year and could not be sent overseas. 2/3 of US WW2 troops were conscripts. 1/3 in Vietnam.

2019-11-27 00:56:19 UTC  

Imagine a 33% tax.

2019-11-27 00:57:29 UTC  

Compare to now. 6.2% social security, 1.45% Medicare, 12% federal income tax, 7% sales tax if you're lucky

2019-11-27 00:57:50 UTC  

Trickle down taxes on other things like gas

2019-11-27 00:57:52 UTC  

Ammo

2019-11-27 00:58:00 UTC  

Property tax

2019-11-27 00:58:10 UTC  

Car registration tax