Message from Faticati in Subverse #politics-free-for-all

2018-11-11 17:18:46 UTC  

Welfare programs have many ill effects

2018-11-11 17:19:02 UTC  

I have yet to see any evidence showing they make society better

2018-11-11 17:19:36 UTC  

If you want to say they placate the stupid and keep them from learning id say thats possible

2018-11-11 17:19:42 UTC  

Ensuring kids grow up healthy and strong seems to be a winner. Healthy kids are less likely to grow to be dependent adults.

2018-11-11 17:21:22 UTC  

I see no evidence to support that claim

2018-11-11 17:22:20 UTC  

The welfare state as we have it has not only halted minority advancement it also took away the advancements in society many black people had made

2018-11-11 17:23:37 UTC  

But at least they eat and vote

2018-11-11 17:23:48 UTC  


2018-11-11 17:26:58 UTC  

Thomas sowell is an economist who has spent a very long time looking at social programs I would bet if he was asked directly he would say evil people made these programs to hurt his people

2018-11-11 17:27:29 UTC  

@Timcast seems to ignore things like this

2018-11-11 17:27:53 UTC  

Everyone is ok spending everyone elseโ€™s money

2018-11-11 17:27:59 UTC  

Without asking

2018-11-11 17:34:12 UTC  

As long as programs dont become corrupt and statistically work, I'm ok with helping out... I have a problem with welfare abuse and corruption... I'm a firm believer in resiliency/self reliance as well.

2018-11-11 17:35:59 UTC  

As we know government and private are all susceptible to abuse and corruption... we humans are clever things lol

2018-11-11 17:36:57 UTC  

I also dont like the idea that I'm forced to help by government either...

2018-11-11 17:43:16 UTC  

Unless we are willing to cull kids that have inadequate support, speaking entirely biologically it is better for us to ensure those kids grow up with the health and education to be productive members of society.

2018-11-11 17:44:28 UTC  

Otherwise we almost ensure they will grow to be wards of the state, either due to welfare or the justice system.

2018-11-11 17:46:55 UTC  

There's a lot of truth in that, and that's the struggle, where is the happy medium ๐Ÿ˜

2018-11-11 18:09:21 UTC  

Id rather the justice system take care of them than waste money on social programs just to have the justice system have to kick in afterwards

2018-11-11 18:30:57 UTC  

But why not avoid the justice system entirely? Create contributing members of society?

2018-11-11 18:31:29 UTC  

Social programs dont do that

2018-11-11 18:33:40 UTC  

Youth programs do. Head Start, for example, has good data. So does school lunches. The youth programs are the success stories.

Boy scouts should be boys only end of story change my mind

2018-11-11 18:35:54 UTC  

I'm actually not going to try with that one

2018-11-11 18:36:09 UTC  

I don't think anyone here will take that bait

I was on 37% battery anyway

2018-11-11 18:36:57 UTC  

I'm a believer that there are differences between boys and girls, on average, and having spaces for each to develop independently while also ensuring they can relate well to each other is a good thing

2018-11-11 18:38:22 UTC  

I am a woman married to a woman and we have two kids, a boy and a girl. We have ensured our kids have male role models that they interact with all the time. Our son considers my dad his father and we've embraced that. My dad and my son talk about stuff my wife and I never hear about and that's a good thing.

2018-11-11 18:39:59 UTC  

I know. This browser Discord takes some getting used to. I'm also not the worlds best typist. ๐Ÿ˜ฟ

I use mobile mostly

2018-11-11 18:41:04 UTC  

I do too, but I'm even slower at that. I didn't grow up with smart phones.

I used to be extremely slow

2018-11-11 18:45:08 UTC  

Wamen are different from mans

2018-11-11 18:52:38 UTC  


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2018-11-11 18:53:20 UTC  

Don't you mean wamxn?

2018-11-11 18:54:05 UTC  

good point

2018-11-11 18:54:15 UTC  


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2018-11-11 19:21:06 UTC  

I vote for pragmatism