Message from @Dennafen

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2018-12-04 20:36:27 UTC  

That'd be nice.

2018-12-04 20:36:27 UTC  

uhhhh

2018-12-04 20:36:33 UTC  

why?

2018-12-04 20:36:44 UTC  

They're not representatives of the people.

2018-12-04 20:36:54 UTC  

They're representatives of the state.

2018-12-04 20:37:05 UTC  

They're supposed to be reps of the states interests not the states.

2018-12-04 20:37:21 UTC  

Kind of like the EU.

2018-12-04 20:37:21 UTC  

By county CA went Trump, by county CT went Trump, by county NY went Trump

2018-12-04 20:37:43 UTC  

i don't know about that

2018-12-04 20:38:01 UTC  

What are the interests of the state?

2018-12-04 20:38:21 UTC  

they are not strictly representatives of the state, they are representatives of the people in that state, but balanced against population.

2018-12-04 20:38:47 UTC  

where as the house is a balance against the minority

2018-12-04 20:39:05 UTC  

The interests of the states vs the interests of the people as a whole.

2018-12-04 20:39:36 UTC  

Pick a state then

2018-12-04 20:39:48 UTC  

Michigan.

2018-12-04 20:40:07 UTC  

Denial? Thats a state right?

2018-12-04 20:40:13 UTC  

lol

2018-12-04 20:40:51 UTC  

Ok, isnt on of michigan's goals to continue to grow their population by attracting people from other states and responding to the needs of their own residents?

2018-12-04 20:41:11 UTC  

I had to read up a bit. Imagine if each state have the current number of rep as today, but each state was one electoral super district. Example given; everyone in Alabama could vote for everyone there and the 7 candidates with the most votes go to Congress.
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama%27s_congressional_districts>

2018-12-04 20:41:43 UTC  

@4AM_critter 🐉 who wins what seats?

2018-12-04 20:42:04 UTC  

Sure, but does that mean that what the reps from detriot want are in the best interests of the state?

2018-12-04 20:42:15 UTC  

They want what are best for their area

2018-12-04 20:42:24 UTC  

Yes, their area, not the state.

2018-12-04 20:43:01 UTC  

Right, which is why you have senators

2018-12-04 20:43:09 UTC  

Who want whats best for their state as a whole

2018-12-04 20:43:10 UTC  

The elctoral district have 7 seats, you are not locked to any particular geographical subset

2018-12-04 20:43:24 UTC  
2018-12-04 20:43:25 UTC  

Who should be appointed by the state legislature not popular election.

2018-12-04 20:43:29 UTC  

Nope

2018-12-04 20:43:32 UTC  

Yes.

2018-12-04 20:43:38 UTC  

@4AM_critter 🐉 yes, but winner takes all?

2018-12-04 20:43:59 UTC  

Because the people of the state need to have a say in who goes to congress

2018-12-04 20:44:10 UTC  

They do, that's the representive.

2018-12-04 20:44:41 UTC  

@Dennafen isn't stuff like this partly how the EU go into such a mess?

2018-12-04 20:44:47 UTC  

NO. Grenade, imagine 20 persons running for office. The 7 candidates with the most votes get the seats.

2018-12-04 20:45:01 UTC  

@4AM_critter 🐉 so everyone votes on all 7 seats, rather than 1.

2018-12-04 20:45:09 UTC  

@Grenade123 Yes, because they don't have representatives.

2018-12-04 20:45:25 UTC  

I dont want my represetnatives who cant even agree on a budget for my state to decide who gets to represent us in washington

2018-12-04 20:45:43 UTC  

No, you have one vote, and you can only vote for one person.

2018-12-04 20:45:46 UTC  

Because as you said, those locally elected representatives dont care whats best for other areas they only care about their own

2018-12-04 20:46:13 UTC  

@4AM_critter 🐉 okay, all 20 get some percent of the vote. what now? take the top 7?