Message from @Beemann

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2018-12-05 19:22:24 UTC  

that's a chinese problem not mine

2018-12-05 19:22:27 UTC  

and yes

2018-12-05 19:22:28 UTC  

Do they matter less than Europeans?

2018-12-05 19:22:33 UTC  

I don't live in Europe either

2018-12-05 19:22:42 UTC  

im not saying that

2018-12-05 19:22:49 UTC  

im just saying that if I was in the EU

2018-12-05 19:22:55 UTC  

id take care of EU ppls first

2018-12-05 19:23:02 UTC  

EU has labour laws. Minimum wage

2018-12-05 19:23:16 UTC  

for all countries?

2018-12-05 19:23:20 UTC  

It will always cost considerably more

2018-12-05 19:23:50 UTC  

Are you seriously arguing that China couldn't produce for its own domestic consumption if the US export market dries up?

2018-12-05 19:24:06 UTC  

not me

2018-12-05 19:24:16 UTC  

I think Beemann is.

2018-12-05 19:24:17 UTC  

Cost of living is also higher

2018-12-05 19:24:37 UTC  

I'm saying China would not produce as much as it does for domestic usage

2018-12-05 19:24:44 UTC  

and we need not be melodramatic. The avg Russian makes less than the Avg Chinese person

2018-12-05 19:24:46 UTC  

Which means you're cutting down on jobs

2018-12-05 19:24:53 UTC  

Russia isn't EU

2018-12-05 19:25:00 UTC  

neither is China

2018-12-05 19:25:04 UTC  

And as far as I'm aware every EU nation has min wage

2018-12-05 19:25:12 UTC  

You advocated moving labour to the EU

2018-12-05 19:25:28 UTC  

Why would an EU citizen want to outsource to Russia instead of China?

2018-12-05 19:25:57 UTC  

they wouldn't

2018-12-05 19:26:10 UTC  

Uh, China has 1.6 billion domestic consumers.

2018-12-05 19:26:14 UTC  

Rus. has terrible infrastructure

2018-12-05 19:27:15 UTC  

China currently produces for itself and multiple other countries

2018-12-05 19:27:23 UTC  

X > X-Y

2018-12-05 19:27:52 UTC  

I'd also point out that the people working in sweatshops aren't exactly going to pick up the slack on consumption

2018-12-05 19:28:10 UTC  

I'm arguing for the defense of EU citizens though

2018-12-05 19:28:11 UTC  

C+NX > C is obvious but beside the point. It's up to China to decide how quickly it shifts NX into C.

2018-12-05 19:29:05 UTC  

Make sweatshops Nike again.

2018-12-05 19:29:50 UTC  

>you have enough factories to produce for multiple other consumer states, including some of the richest nations on the planet
>lol make that up with your own population alone, including the people you pay poorly

2018-12-05 19:29:54 UTC  

@m1 Why do EU citizens matter more

2018-12-05 19:29:55 UTC  

It sounds like a new mandate to grow a consumption-based economy would make sweatshop labor untenable in China. What's not to like about that situation?

2018-12-05 19:30:17 UTC  

Than Chinese?

2018-12-05 19:30:49 UTC  

>would make sweatshop labour untenable
How so? They can't trade with you and now need to produce less. People will just starve

2018-12-05 19:30:59 UTC  

The Chinese should act in their best interests same with the Europeans

2018-12-05 19:31:07 UTC  

i agree

2018-12-05 19:31:26 UTC  

No, they need to grow to produce more for their own people. The same way the West did a century ago.

2018-12-05 19:31:50 UTC  

They are just in the middle class trap

2018-12-05 19:32:04 UTC  

>they will need to produce more for their own people
They *overproduce*. That's why they can sell shit off