Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-12-13 01:06:38 UTC  

annex canada

2018-12-13 05:20:58 UTC  
2018-12-13 11:39:14 UTC  

48 minutes... 😦

2018-12-13 11:39:28 UTC  

Oh, he's a slow talker. 2x speed here I go!

2018-12-13 11:41:58 UTC  

Hmm'kay. He's skipping the stuff I was wondering how he'd justify. Defense, Police, State, Voting, etc. So no, this is about roads and space. Those are much easier although I'll be interested if he means local roads and not freeways.

2018-12-13 11:46:07 UTC  

@DrYuriMom Here's some good arguments for that stuff https://youtu.be/gphKVhnwREc

2018-12-13 11:57:21 UTC  

Here's the audiobook version of the essays George Costanza wrote on the same topic. It's a little bit longer, but is more concise and covers more.
https://youtu.be/-Z1czR4GYW8
https://youtu.be/keYK9TJ_Xi4

2018-12-13 11:58:51 UTC  

So far Murphy lost me at the very beginning given we can't even agree as a society on science. 😕

2018-12-13 11:59:10 UTC  

I'm still listening, though. I'm at weights and measures.

2018-12-13 12:00:30 UTC  

So far I'm 0/3 accepting his arguments...but still listening. 😃

2018-12-13 12:01:29 UTC  

Here's Hoppe's argument for ancapistan, if you want the edgy take. No audiobook for this.
https://mises.org/library/private-production-defense

2018-12-13 12:03:03 UTC  

My biggest issue with "private armies" has been made stark in France. Do you want soldiers caring only about the Dollar (or Euro), possibly not even being your own countrymen? Or do you want soldiers who are your countrymen and just may reject illegal orders and stand with the people when smelly stuff hits spinning blades?

2018-12-13 12:04:59 UTC  

Bit hard to make that decision if you don't have a free market. As if anyone would pay for security from a firm that didn't hire locally.

2018-12-13 12:05:04 UTC  

As far as what Murphy is talking about, I want power with the people not the Dollar. Government is run on the principle of human beings each with one vote. Privatization gives those with money more power. Right now that only happens when people allow their votes to be swayed by money, but each person still has that vote.

2018-12-13 12:05:42 UTC  

Mercenaries have existed throughout history

2018-12-13 12:05:46 UTC  

I'm not fond of them

2018-12-13 12:09:49 UTC  

I don't exactly disagree with him about how we currently criminalize people through laws and radicalize them in prisions

2018-12-13 12:10:34 UTC  

*>I want power with the people not the Dollar.*
Is it now? Is it people's votes that get swayed by money or is it the politicians who get swayed?

2018-12-13 12:10:40 UTC  

That said, we've seen a lot of abuse with private prisons. I like his vision but I don't like the practice I've seen

2018-12-13 12:11:11 UTC  

People choose to vote for bought politicians. That's their choice.

2018-12-13 12:11:39 UTC  

Mr Murphy has a lot more faith in humanity than I do

2018-12-13 12:12:04 UTC  

I look to government to protect me from humanity's baser instincts

2018-12-13 12:12:26 UTC  

Government is humanity's basest instinct.

2018-12-13 12:12:36 UTC  

There is where we disagree

2018-12-13 12:13:31 UTC  

Do you agree with the principle that government should have a monopoly on violence?

2018-12-13 12:15:59 UTC  

The voters have a monopoly on violence. The voters deputize the government to act to maintain their will. We as voters collectively accept restrictions on our monopoly through a Constitution which exists to limit our power.

2018-12-13 12:16:17 UTC  

Collective action is a spook

2018-12-13 12:16:36 UTC  

There is no such thing as the will of the collective.

2018-12-13 12:17:09 UTC  

Has the constitution done a good job limiting the power of government?

2018-12-13 12:17:23 UTC  

It's works for well over two centuries insofar as collectively accepting Constitutional government

2018-12-13 12:18:12 UTC  

We're flawed humans and or government is flawed as we are. But overall, yes.

2018-12-13 12:18:26 UTC  

There have been a lot of failings along the way, and even currently

2018-12-13 12:18:40 UTC  

But yes, we still have a Constitutional government

2018-12-13 12:19:30 UTC  

The fact we (more or less) calmly handed power from Obama to Trump is proof of the beauty of our system.

2018-12-13 12:20:23 UTC  

And the fact two or six years from now we will (more or less) calmly hand power to someone else, possibly as antithetical to Trump as Obama is amazing.

2018-12-13 12:20:42 UTC  

The swamp is undrainable, there was no danger there.

2018-12-13 12:21:14 UTC  

We are well past the possibility of top down reform

2018-12-13 12:21:15 UTC  

You call it a swamp. I call it the greatest achievement of mankind.

2018-12-13 12:21:37 UTC  

Warts and all

2018-12-13 12:21:52 UTC  

And God knows there are a LOT of warts

2018-12-13 12:21:52 UTC  

The administrative state is what is meant by the swamp