Message from @Rustyer266

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2019-01-04 18:30:45 UTC  

It's getting worse. You can hardly even get a VPN in mainland China anymore.

2019-01-04 18:31:01 UTC  

yea he has been talking about that

2019-01-04 18:31:07 UTC  

People treat each other horribly because everything is a liability.

2019-01-04 18:31:17 UTC  

he is bailing for the us soon

2019-01-04 18:31:24 UTC  

Yes, it's shitty.

2019-01-04 18:31:31 UTC  

I was very close to having my Z visa.

2019-01-04 18:31:39 UTC  

i couldnt live like that

2019-01-04 18:31:42 UTC  

I am not sure I still want to go.

2019-01-04 18:31:46 UTC  

I wish I had 10 years ago.

2019-01-04 18:32:00 UTC  

yea

2019-01-04 18:32:13 UTC  

I think C-Milk is already in CA for good.

2019-01-04 18:32:24 UTC  

Pozzie, too, I think.

2019-01-04 18:33:16 UTC  

i have not kept up with milk but i know he has property up there

2019-01-04 18:33:39 UTC  

What I see in China is similar to what I see in the US: the state has become a cudgel that people wield against each other, which drives people apart, makes them suspicious of each other. Compare this to the MeToo movement and the Mike Pence rule.

2019-01-04 18:33:58 UTC  

when you have kids and people constantly attacking you trying to get you deported i can see why the only option is to leave

2019-01-04 18:34:47 UTC  

The US is a very litigious society, which is different from Europe. I grew up in Europe and people are required to give first aid, for example. In the US I have seen many cases where nobody wants to help because they are afraid of criminal charges or being sued.

2019-01-04 18:35:11 UTC  

yea i cant say i want to buy the lotto ticket to destroy my life with metoo its kinda the reason i am not looking for a relation ship at all

2019-01-04 18:35:57 UTC  

There have now been cases where toddlers were left to drown in a lake or women died, because people were too afraid of the liability.

2019-01-04 18:36:10 UTC  

honestly i dont blame them

2019-01-04 18:36:26 UTC  

why buy that lottery ticket to end your life

2019-01-04 18:36:35 UTC  

yeah i definitly agree

2019-01-04 18:36:41 UTC  

with all the BS we have seen

2019-01-04 18:37:06 UTC  

well where i live we dont have that shit so id probably still try to save someone as much as i can

2019-01-04 18:37:26 UTC  

but if i hear anything else but thank you for saving my/my kids life

2019-01-04 18:37:31 UTC  

i will throw a scene

2019-01-04 18:37:59 UTC  

If people are so quick to send the weight of the state crushing down on them, we will live in a society of deep distrust.

2019-01-04 18:38:11 UTC  

true that

2019-01-04 18:38:18 UTC  

i already have trust issues

2019-01-04 18:38:34 UTC  

Part of why people in Europe are still generally more willing to help each other is because the general societal risk is more spread out.

2019-01-04 18:39:03 UTC  

There are advantages and disadvantages to this model. The US has a model that emphasizes individual liability, but also individual gain.

2019-01-04 18:39:21 UTC  

well my country has always otten fucked over so its almost as if we are mostly disconnected

2019-01-04 18:40:06 UTC  

the reason we dont have massive protests is because people in here are way to fucking lazy or high or tehy care too much about their job

2019-01-04 18:40:09 UTC  

yea i cant say i would willingly save some one unless its to personal benefit if its not some one i know

2019-01-04 18:40:40 UTC  

That is also a reason why US awards handed out by courts seem so insane to Europeans. In Europe, due to society in general carrying the burden for injury, damages are usually much less, because society is already footing the bill for health care in general. If you break your leg in a car crash and can't work, there is less of a social net for you in the US, so, in order to be able to fully compensate for the loss, the awards must be higher.

2019-01-04 18:41:51 UTC  

but just imagine for a second that you wake up with some guy standing over you and the last thing you remeber is flying through your cars windshield whilst simultaniously driving that same car into a river, how idiotic must you be to accuse that person who went out of his way to save your miserable life of anything

2019-01-04 18:41:57 UTC  

That is the fundamental ideological divide between a society with collective vs. individual responsibility.

2019-01-04 18:42:15 UTC  

if i were to be a rapist i wouldnt give CPR to some random woman right?

2019-01-04 18:42:22 UTC  

i would just do my thing and leave

2019-01-04 18:42:28 UTC  

less eye witnesses

2019-01-04 18:42:32 UTC  

Hmm?