Message from @whiic

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2019-02-11 22:24:13 UTC  

NAP STATUS VIOLATED

2019-02-11 22:24:13 UTC  

That is the issue.

2019-02-11 22:25:15 UTC  

Resources will always be scarce.

2019-02-11 22:25:17 UTC  

At the end of the day I'll say that the moment that Anarcho-communism becomes possible, Anarcho-Capitalism became possible a few moments prior. Both are utopian.

2019-02-11 22:25:28 UTC  

This idea that only libertarians that are libertarians need to be ancap, is the cancer that ensured these libertarians will **all be autistic** without concept of gray area.

2019-02-11 22:25:37 UTC  

There is zero chance a spacefaring society like a Star Trek world doesn’t become communist.

2019-02-11 22:25:38 UTC  

Ancap is political autism.

2019-02-11 22:25:47 UTC  

Communism is science fiction.

2019-02-11 22:25:53 UTC  

Ancom is political schizophrenia...

2019-02-11 22:26:00 UTC  

Scarcity exists even with replicators.

2019-02-11 22:26:10 UTC  

@whiic I really should start using Minarchist instead.

2019-02-11 22:26:13 UTC  

It’s not worth discussing until resources are plentiful.

2019-02-11 22:26:32 UTC  

And then it becomes colonial in real world senses.

2019-02-11 22:26:58 UTC  

@H3llbender Well, minarchism (i.e small "L" libertarians, thicc libertarians) are also pretty much co-opted by ancap thinking.

2019-02-11 22:27:13 UTC  

They are just ancaps who allow for police. Even they reject: roads, welfare, etc.

2019-02-11 22:27:32 UTC  

Because there is a lot of people have just enough knowledge to totally derail the conversation

2019-02-11 22:27:42 UTC  

Ancaps want police, just privatised.

2019-02-11 22:27:47 UTC  

Like the roads won’t become capitalist with asphalt and right of way becoming the capital.

2019-02-11 22:28:01 UTC  

@halfthink Halfthink really suit as your name.

2019-02-11 22:28:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509549100061163520/544645845736226826/R9ObHWc.png

2019-02-11 22:28:15 UTC  

How is private police different from mafia, btw?

2019-02-11 22:28:28 UTC  

Ancaps are not communists.

2019-02-11 22:28:43 UTC  

Also regarding General Welfare because this is very important, Article 1 Section 8 clearly defines General Welfare. If anyone can find anything in here that sounds like "welfare" is it's colloquially known today, they have a very large imagination. https://usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html

2019-02-11 22:28:54 UTC  

mafia steals yourshit if you dont pay, private police lets others stel your shit if you dont pay

2019-02-11 22:29:10 UTC  

@whiic It is enough to rid the knee-jerk reaction that I am fighting though through, which is enough for my vague sense of localism to prevail I think.

2019-02-11 22:29:15 UTC  

Can we all agree that education is a right, therefore everyone should be able to access it without drowning in debt?

2019-02-11 22:29:22 UTC  

no

2019-02-11 22:29:26 UTC  

😦

2019-02-11 22:29:28 UTC  

not on the common sense

2019-02-11 22:29:34 UTC  

@whiic private police would be voluntarily funded and have competition. How is a state different from the Mafia?

2019-02-11 22:29:38 UTC  

The definition of general welfare is defined by the Supreme Court.

2019-02-11 22:29:43 UTC  

@DefinitlyNotInsane - NL What prevents private police from stealing as well?

2019-02-11 22:29:45 UTC  

You have the right to educate yourself, but you can't force anyone else to do it.

2019-02-11 22:29:52 UTC  

And pretending it doesn’t is mental masturbation.

2019-02-11 22:30:16 UTC  

To educate yourself, you need the means

2019-02-11 22:30:18 UTC  

The point of a right is that if you are isolated from society, does it still exist? For example, you don't require anyone to be around to have free speech. Someone has to stop you from having it.

2019-02-11 22:30:23 UTC  

@Turiaki We can agree that the education system has countless market failures, mostly due to government intervention.

2019-02-11 22:30:29 UTC  

@halfthink And different mobs didn't fight each other over turf? How is private police competing against each other different from mafia?

2019-02-11 22:30:34 UTC  

@whiic id say morality, but as soon as they start stealing id say they lose their title as "police"

2019-02-11 22:30:37 UTC  

@H3llbender True, that much is obvious

2019-02-11 22:30:42 UTC  

Is there a "no confidence" vote in the US Constitution? If not, there should be.