Message from @Beemann

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2018-07-19 16:48:06 UTC  

at best you can just not practice it yourself

2018-07-19 16:48:09 UTC  

@.B that sounds rather utilitarian, which I would argue produces rather reprehensible results

2018-07-19 16:48:12 UTC  

"Illegal" is very well defined though

2018-07-19 16:48:20 UTC  

Not necessarily

2018-07-19 16:49:28 UTC  

If legal matters were clear we would have fewer debates about the meaning of particular laws

2018-07-19 16:49:47 UTC  

legal matters are clear

The only issue we have is our morals making people want to impose theirs on others

2018-07-19 16:50:00 UTC  

So, in your opinion we should keep all malformed babies being born and adapt society to their needs?

2018-07-19 16:50:06 UTC  

because we don't share the same morals

2018-07-19 16:50:20 UTC  

Where did I say society should adapt to them?

2018-07-19 16:50:43 UTC  

isn't that bound to happen?

2018-07-19 16:50:46 UTC  

I don't accuse you of wanting to execute everyone with a learning disability

2018-07-19 16:50:47 UTC  

No

2018-07-19 16:51:12 UTC  

I'm not wanting, I just said parents should have a choice for that

2018-07-19 16:51:26 UTC  

And from a species point of view, it makes sense

2018-07-19 16:51:31 UTC  

You don't have to execute them, but they shouldn't get an equal share of the pie,
That in itself is counterproductive to the evolution of the human race

2018-07-19 16:51:42 UTC  

Bingo

2018-07-19 16:51:43 UTC  

From a species point of view abortion is a net negative

2018-07-19 16:51:56 UTC  

no its not

2018-07-19 16:52:02 UTC  

Some species kill the weak ones after they are born

2018-07-19 16:52:09 UTC  

You would just let natural selection take care of the maladapted

2018-07-19 16:52:10 UTC  

Sure

2018-07-19 16:52:26 UTC  

They know that even if they don't, the environment will

2018-07-19 16:52:27 UTC  

But you wouldn't a healthy child, and we do

2018-07-19 16:52:38 UTC  

Do you think abortion should be restricted to eugenics?

2018-07-19 16:52:44 UTC  

no

2018-07-19 16:52:54 UTC  

a healthy child can still lead a shitty life

2018-07-19 16:53:11 UTC  

holy fuck that was intense...

2018-07-19 16:53:11 UTC  

The problem with humans is that we ended "Natural Selection"

2018-07-19 16:53:22 UTC  

Okay but you're the one using natural selection, not me

2018-07-19 16:53:29 UTC  

Exactly

2018-07-19 16:53:32 UTC  

So don't use it and then retract it :)

2018-07-19 16:53:56 UTC  

I'm not retracting, I meant we need to balance it out due to the lack of it

2018-07-19 16:54:05 UTC  

with natural selection you wouldn't need abortion, the less-abled would die off themselves

2018-07-19 16:54:06 UTC  

You mean apply selectively

2018-07-19 16:54:14 UTC  

lol started a ranked game of league, 2 mins in some dynamite on my street goes off. i hear my mom flip out about something and think its jsut her normal stressin out

2018-07-19 16:54:16 UTC  

Right, that's what I'm saying

2018-07-19 16:54:17 UTC  

and the un-wanted would die off too 😉

2018-07-19 16:54:18 UTC  

then she askes me to get the shop vac, i go check outside and the fucking pane of glass on our table outside fucking shattered completely

2018-07-19 16:54:46 UTC  

right beside out in ground pool

2018-07-19 16:54:47 UTC  

If we're going back to natural selection to determine society's functions, abortion is redundant

2018-07-19 16:54:56 UTC  

exactly